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Old 05-01-2011, 01:16 PM
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I am looking for a good reliable and accurate .22lr bolt action rifle without breaking the bank. Basically something effective within the 150 to 200 yard range. I will be scoping it and using it for hunting purposes. I have semi autos already so I would really like to invest in a bolt action. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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A .22lr that is good out to 150-200 yards will need to shoot .223 rounds.

What kind of bolt do you like? Tube, single shot or mag fed? What semi's do you have already? You may be able to get mag synergy with them.

Most bolt .22lr rifles are going to be pretty affordable and good out to 125 yards max on very small game.
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The Savage MkII .22's are good, but have one weakness, the sear.
It's a MIM part and if it breaks (It's also used as the bolt stop so it can and does happen) it's can be a pain to remove.
There is a good replacement part, available from Brownells but costs @$90.

The older Remington 5XX series, the Marlins and older Savages can be had and as long as the barrels aren't toasted by improper cleaning should be good to go.
My 511 is extremely accurate and didn't break the bank, they are available for varied prices depending on condition. Same goes for the Marlin bolt guns from years past.

Many don't think the .22 is good at longer ranges but the .22 used to be shot at 200 and 300 yards regularly in competition. It's much more dependent on good ammo and a good shooter at that point. My Kimber's and Volquartsen 10/22 are reliable shooters at long range, the Volquartsen is good for under 4" at 100Y from a rest and with several types of ammo.
The Kimber is good for half that easily, but the ammo is the biggest telling point here.

Shoot garbage and you're gonna get garbage results.
Think CCI Green Tag, Eley Tenex or some other target (subsonic) velocity ammo that's not bulk packed.

I've used the lowly .22 on prairie dogs out to 200Y, with great effect. It takes a bit of practice to learn to dope the wind and estimate the ranges correctly to compensate for bullet drop at longer ranges but once you learn, you will find it a really fun way to spend an afternoon (day).

Sam Fadala's is a great read and well worth searching out. It has a chapter on long range .22 shooting that's well worth a read.
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CZ makes a really nice bolt action and I think it's more accurate then my Browning A bolt. Not real cheap but a good value for the money.
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.22lr and 150-200 yard hunting? Even decent target shootting is questionable at that range.
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The Savage MkII .22's are good, but have one weakness, the sear.
It's a MIM part and if it breaks (It's also used as the bolt stop so it can and does happen) it's can be a pain to remove.
There is a good replacement part, available from Brownells but costs @$90.

The older Remington 5XX series, the Marlins and older Savages can be had and as long as the barrels aren't toasted by improper cleaning should be good to go.
My 511 is extremely accurate and didn't break the bank, they are available for varied prices depending on condition. Same goes for the Marlin bolt guns from years past.

Many don't think the .22 is good at longer ranges but the .22 used to be shot at 200 and 300 yards regularly in competition. It's much more dependent on good ammo and a good shooter at that point. My Kimber's and Volquartsen 10/22 are reliable shooters at long range, the Volquartsen is good for under 4" at 100Y from a rest and with several types of ammo.
The Kimber is good for half that easily, but the ammo is the biggest telling point here.

Shoot garbage and you're gonna get garbage results.
Think CCI Green Tag, Eley Tenex or some other target (subsonic) velocity ammo that's not bulk packed.

I've used the lowly .22 on prairie dogs out to 200Y, with great effect. It takes a bit of practice to learn to dope the wind and estimate the ranges correctly to compensate for bullet drop at longer ranges but once you learn, you will find it a really fun way to spend an afternoon (day).

Sam Fadala's "Book of the .22" is a great read and well worth searching out. It has a chapter on long range .22 shooting that's well worth a read.
I agree with you. Many don't believe .22lr's are effective at that range. I have an old Squires Bingham and an old Marlin semi autos that can shoot 3 to 5 in groups at 125 yards if I do my part with good ammo off of bipods. Thanks for the insight I'll look into those Remingtons. I just like to hear what other peoples preferences are and like to hear their hands on experiences. Thanks for the response.
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A .22lr that is good out to 150-200 yards will need to shoot .223 rounds.

What kind of bolt do you like? Tube, single shot or mag fed? What semi's do you have already? You may be able to get mag synergy with them.

Most bolt .22lr rifles are going to be pretty affordable and good out to 125 yards max on very small game.
I know .22lr's are effective out past 125 yards if the person does their part. As for tube or magazine I'm not as particular on that as long as it is reliable. My other ones are a Squires Bingham and a Marlin Model 70. I'm very effective with them to 125 yards so I know a good bolt action can go more than that. As whirlibird said you just gotta figure out the drop and windage just like any other round. I was basically looking for peoples experiences with different bolt action .22lr's so I knew what to stay away from and what to take a closer look at.
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CZ makes a really nice bolt action and I think it's more accurate then my Browning A bolt. Not real cheap but a good value for the money.
What he said. I think cz's are a bargin when one considers how well they shoot.
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Had my Winchester 69A bolt action out last weekend and was nailing 4" steel targets @ 100m using Stingers and a Lyman Peep Sight. I hadn't fired that rifle in 25+ years and it was as dead on as the day I put it away. It was so much fun my Rugers and New Marlin 60 sat in the rack most of the time.

I did curse the 5rd mag though!
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The Ruger 77 22 is a nice rifle. Good stock pattern and not too hard to find a used one for a decent price.
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Marlins are about the best bolt .22's on the market and reasonably priced, too. Savages are great also, as are CZ's, but you're getting into greater expense.
A .22 bolt action rifle with a good scope will accurately shoot out to 200 yards. Most shooters, though, can't. Better to limit yourself to say 100 yards, or even 50. any farther and you need to use your woodsmanship to get closer.
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CZ452 22LR High Lux 28.5" hammer forged barrel.

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Remington Model 5, Turkish made, good quality, great groups at 50 yards. Love to shoot this thing
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[QUOTE=EdD270;2718661]Marlins are about the best bolt .22's on the market and reasonably priced, too. [QUOTE/]

DITTO. And for $150 they are often on sale with a not so bad scope.
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[QUOTE=whirlibird;2708694]The Savage MkII .22's are good, but have one weakness, the sear.
It's a MIM part and if it breaks (It's also used as the bolt stop so it can and does happen) it's can be a pain to remove.
There is a good replacement part, available from Brownells but costs @$90.



Thanks for that info. whirlibird, I've had a LH Savage Mark II (made in Canada) for several years and it's the designated anti critter rifle. The thing is astonishingly accurate with the old Simmons 3-9x32 scope and win. Super-X HP's but I had no idea about the sear issue. I guess I better a replacement for the parts box in case mine does fail someday.
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Shooting 22LR past 100 yards and you are going to get some serious drop. People compete for fun with the 22LR out to 200-300 yards, but that's on paper. Shooting that distance with a 22LR for hunting is plane ole unethical in my book.

Some good advice on rifle choices...CZs are great if you don't mind wood stocks. If you can find a Marlin 880SQ (discontinued) they are great rifles too...that is what I am currently shooting. I had it threaded for my suppressor and it's been a fantastic rifle.

The new Savage Mark II TRR-SR are very nice, but probably out of your budget.
http://savagearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIITRRSR
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I'd rather have a few good firearms than a bunch of poor performers. However, in the 22lr department, marlin is both good and inexpensive.

A major concerned with the long life of a 22lr barrel is the metal and metal work they did to the metal. I'm a bit concerned about the marlin's micro groove barrels. Although both my 981T marlins shoot great, the rifling is very shallow compared to other guns. I know the CZ gun are hammer forged barrels. They basically make a 22lr rifle to quality centerfire hunting rifle standards.

That ruger 77 22 is another good buy. Savage mark II are great, but I am not sure about their barrel construction as mentioned above.

You can buy a marlin and give it a try. IF you don't like it, you can sell it for pretty close to what you paid for it privately.
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Used Glenfield model 25 is a bolt action and magazine fed. Can pick up the magazines on gunbroker.com. I love shooting this rifle!!!! It has some nice engraved squirrels on the stock also. Don't quote me on this but I believe that Glenfield is to Marlin as Murcury was to Ford? Either way, Glenfield or Marlin is priced right and shoots like a charm.
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I have an old Romanian .22 training rifle, bolt with a mag. Its a good shooting gun.there usually pretty affordable to. I only gave 80 bucks for mine but that was a few years back.
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When I was a kid I watched my Dad lay his Remington 552 Speedmaster on top of a fencepost and shoot a coyote at about 1/4 mile with open sights. That has to be the most impressive shot I have ever observed.
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