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Old 04-22-2011, 01:01 PM
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Can anyone tell me where to find surplus .303 British these days or is it going to be a round to start reloading?
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Can anyone tell me where to find surplus .303 British these days or is it going to be a round to start reloading?
your location would be handy. Around here they sell it at walmart even
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It's not real common here but I do see it in a couple of the gun shops in my area.
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The Dunhams near me usually has one or 2 boxes in stock. As for surplus, I couldn't tell ya.

AIMSurplus usually has good prices, even on their new stuff. PPU ammo is good stuff, and they carry it in .303 brit for ~$13 a box No surplus tho.
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good surplus is hard to find. I would stick to reloads if it were my gun.
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303 British surplus ammo in bulk is pretty much a thing of the past ,haven't seen any in a few years online and what was got pretty expensive as the quantities dwindled. Individual boxes or small quantities will show up at gun shows or stores on occasion but that's about it.

All the major ammo players both domestic and foreign make ammo for the 303,Prvi Partizan is the best brass case 303 ammo for reloading because the case rim is closer to original British 303 ammo specification. The reason this is important is because of headspace the 303 military rifles have very generous chambers which are designed for reliable chambering of dirty ammo and the cases overly expands when fired.

This is not a problem if you just going to fire the case once and toss it,but if you going to reload headspace can be a problem in some rifles because the bolt head on the 303 comes in five separate numbered bolt head which were mated to the particular rifle and ammo used at that time so the cartridge headspace correctly. Using a non military case with a thinner rim depending on which bolt head is on that rifle can leave more space between the bolt head face and the rim of the ammo which when fired stretches the case in the web area.

Repeated full length resizing and over expanded the case will eventually lead to case head separation in short order,it is recommended to neck size only once fired brass. There is a way to get zero headspace using the rubber O-ring firing method a good post on how this is done http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24699&page=4
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I have some I might be persuaded to part with.
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Be careful about surplus 303.I bought like 250 rounds of 65 Pakistani for something around 25-30 bucks.The catalog listed it as mildly corrosive.Well the test fire through an old hacked up mark 1 was a little scary.Out of 7 rounds 2 failed to fire,and 4 others had a hang time of 2-4 or 5 seconds between firing pin strike and actually going off.....it will check to see if you flinch when pulling the trigger though.
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Since the only place on earth were they are still issued is India/Pakistan and they've all been converted to 7.62x51mm your chances of getting mil-surp is next to impossible and the stuff that came out of that area was garbage.

I picked up a 110 round ammo box of Paki stuff years ago and never fired one shot of it...Pulled the FMJ bullet, removed all the powder, deprimed it, washed them out and just reloaded them with my ingredients...Worked fine.
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Can anyone tell me where to find surplus .303 British these days or is it going to be a round to start reloading?
It is ALWAYS a good idea to reload.
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Since the only place on earth were they are still issued is India/Pakistan and they've all been converted to 7.62x51mm your chances of getting mil-surp is next to impossible and the stuff that came out of that area was garbage.

I picked up a 110 round ammo box of Paki stuff years ago and never fired one shot of it...Pulled the FMJ bullet, removed all the powder, deprimed it, washed them out and just reloaded them with my ingredients...Worked fine.
Canadian Rangers still get no4's given to them
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WHO? The military ones or the Dept. of Fish & Game wardens?

Nbr. 4s or .303 ammo haven't been issued since the 1980s.

I don't know if Military Cadets still train with converted .22 LR Lee Enfields like we did back in the 1960s.
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WHO? The military ones or the Dept. of Fish & Game wardens?

Nbr. 4s or .303 ammo haven't been issued since the 1980s.

I don't know if Military Cadets still train with converted .22 LR Lee Enfields like we did back in the 1960s.
I'm not sure but a quick google has pulled up a few websites stating that they are given a no4 rifle and 200 rounds of ammunition
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.303 is a good round and a great gun is chambered for it.

That one is reloader, unless you want to pay $.75-$1 a round for it.
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Some Third world countries use the 303 Enfield even today. It is definitely one of the top military bolt action battle rifles ever produced. Takes two 5 round stripper clips and the slickest action I've ever encountered on a bolt action rifle. They produced A LOT of 303 in the 40's thru the 70's. In Western Pa you can still get battle packs cheaper than the same amount in 22 long rifle.

At dunhams sporting goods, Also I know Cabelas carries it as does Gander Mountain. Reloading for me is only if I'm looking for seriously tight groups at long range. Like Pro matches. I know reloading is cheaper on most rounds but I doubt reloading 303 will save you much. I don't know any where you can't get Ammo for it though. J&G Sales is a great source online. Well you might not be able to get it in the Peoples Socialistic Republic of California. But no matter who would want to go there.
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Never had any Paki .303 misfire on me. Lots of "click-bangs" (hangfires) but those are good practice rounds IF you maintain hangfire precautions (SLOW fire......don't be in a hurry to open the bolt if it doesn't go off right away). The Paki hangfires I've had were split-second affairs and no big danger in that area.

If you have reservations with that ammo, pull the bullets and reload again. It's the combination of crappy priming and poor storage in foreign countries that causes the problem. I've reloaded Paki rounds with granular powder and still had hangfires. The bullets are perfectly good. Corrosive primers are no big deal in milsurp weapons of you clean and maintain them properly.

You can also use commercial brass/primers/powder with surplus 7.62 X 54 bullets to make .303 ammo. Same O.D. and they can be found cheaply in quantity if you search. I use them in my 7.7 and .303 as well as Mosin reloads.

P.S. - even with all the more modern semiauto weapons I own I still love my Enfields and would not feel under-armed if they were all I had. Wonderful, rugged, simple, accurate, effective and reliable battle rifles.
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.303 is a good round and a great gun is chambered for it.

That one is reloader, unless you want to pay $.75-$1 a round for it.
Tell you what - if anyone wants to pay $1 per round I'll sell you all you want.
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wow, I just bought about 200 rounds of Pakistani .303 and it sucks. Its llike shooting a flint lock with the hang fire i'm getting. I would not recommend it unless you get it super cheap and use it for plinking.
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WHO? The military ones or the Dept. of Fish & Game wardens?

Nbr. 4s or .303 ammo haven't been issued since the 1980s.

I don't know if Military Cadets still train with converted .22 LR Lee Enfields like we did back in the 1960s.
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I'm not sure but a quick google has pulled up a few websites stating that they are given a no4 rifle and 200 rounds of ammunition
As of 2011 anyway, the Canadian Rangers were still using, and being issued, the L.E. rifles in .303 Brit.
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The Lee Enfield is still the issue service rifle for the Canadian Rangers. Military ammunition has all but dried up and I believe commercial ammunition is issued to the soldiers. Here is a link to the Canadian Armed Forces website for the Canadian Rangers:

http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/land-te.../index-eng.asp
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