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Old 04-21-2011, 04:35 PM
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We are about 2 hours drive from our BOL, longer if we avoid the interstate. I imagine gridlock if there is a massive exodus. It is stocked with food, water and ammo, and do have a 12 ga in a locker bolted under our house trailer, but the bulk of my firearms are with me. I have a couple of those push golf carts that I have strapped extra large duffels to. It works well, and my wife and I can easily pick up the ends and carry for short distances over obstacles if need be. I will still keep my regular BOB with my primary weapon on my body, but can anyone find fault with my bug out cart solution to bringing more gear with me?
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I am thinking of getting another bicycle cart for specificaly this purpose. Then reinforcing the bottom. That or a game carrier (deer cart) But no I cannot see any fault with your idea. Maybe larger tires? I am unsure of what type of tires those have on them. Small plastic ones? Or rubber?
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I've used a game cart for several years as my main kit. Works well.
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Been doing a lot of thinking about a cart. A cart/Ahkio combination. Kifaru makes a sweet exped. sled.
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My only issue would be speed and mobility. I'm one of those ultralight "bring only the basics" kind of guys though. I realize all of our situations are different and some people may need to bring more gear with them. I just don't like the idea of not being able to move quickly and with agility.
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I'll have to research those other types of carts. The large duffel I have attached to it has a shoulder strap which I can use if I decide to ditch the cart(s). As to travelling light and fast, it would be difficult for me because I'll be bugging out with young children.
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I like the cart/ahkio concept as a last resort option for evac. In the event we cannot bug-in, or that time runs out on a potential bol find/purchase, I like the idea of moving a substantial or long term sustainment load in the most expedient manner possible.

Fuel for motorized mobility is going to be both dangerous and extremely difficult to obtain in worst case scenario. And even in the event it is abundantly available initially as a scavengable resource, mobility may be restricted due to congestion. Not to mention, the noise of a running engine will bring attention very quickly.

The ideal concept, is of course to be dug-in in bol prior to or very shortly after a crisis. But ultimately this may not be an option for various reasons (e.g., no BOL in place, or BOL surrendered or taken by force or circumstances).

In this scenario, what would one do to relocate to a safe zone loaded down with all you could bail with? This is why I like the idea of being able to load up expedition modules designed to carry 200-400 lbs and manuever quickly over difficult terrain.

The carts I've been researching vary sustantially in design. The one I found just recently, a one wheeled type using a heavy duty motorcycle type wheel & tire with a hand break, is by far one of the most versatile designs I've seen.

The cargo area is large enough to load a large number of dry bags/tools, etc. The Ahkio cover is my idea. In snow covered terrain, the entire cart must be designed to disassemble at the wheel base so it can be loaded then on top of the ahkio.

I have a design from a guy on-line who's father fabricated one from steel. I'd just like to find so titanium tubing to have one built to those specs.
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I think travel light and travel fast. A cart and the added weight might slow you down. I do think this one might be what you are looking for and not too difficult to build. I think an adjustable hitch that could double ahd handles for walking.

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I bet a lot of people will use shopping carts. I was also thing about this idea and noticed a friend had a 3 wheel baby carriage with knobby tires. Don't know how much weight it could stand to carry for long though. But it would be somewhat descreat looking.
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I had a jogging stroller, one with bicycle wheels, that I used when my kids where younger. We have sinced passed it on. Too bad. I'm thinking of getting a used jogging stroller and altering it to carry a large duffel.
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thats what i was talking about! never had one- there about $100 used
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I have two young kids, so if I have to make tracks on foot, then Target will be missing a few carts.
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2 hour drive = 6 day hike. Probably longer if you are hauling a cart with you.
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Shopping trolley here. Im planning on seeing if I can get fit enough to bike and then adding a cart as shown in a post above.
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Plus I have dragging those carts thru a parking lot after they gravel the roads. You will hear people coming down the road for a mile.

The Vietnam Cong use bikes, I was thinking about a mountain bike with racks. Then I thought- just get a motorcycle and sidecar( for the dog)
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Off subject I know - dog riding on bike:


Mines to big for this.

I asked a friend about electric bikes, and he said they were only good if your on the flat majority of the time, they wouldnt get you up an average hill you would still have to pedal hard.

I think a golfing cart (the ones you sit in) would be good but that would still need clear roads which isnt going to happen any time soon.
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Definitely a game cart. Lots of good ones to choose from out there. They are meant for rugged terrain, highly adaptable for unique loads, quiet and then store easily.

Especially if you're taking a pet that you want to kennel for whatever reason (maybe a cat or because they're small and get tired, danger of wandering off) they make a good base layer on the game cart.

This is one of the ones I'm looking at right now to replace my much lighter weight one.
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I'll have to research those other types of carts. The large duffel I have attached to it has a shoulder strap which I can use if I decide to ditch the cart(s). As to travelling light and fast, it would be difficult for me because I'll be bugging out with young children.
I'm in the exact opposite situation. I'd love to be able to take more things with me, but will need the mobility to get out of a very dangerous area quickly. Once I'm out, I'll be slugging through soft sand for a long way. It's not feasible to push a cart in.

So my solution was to stock the BOL with as much as I could, knowing I'd be leaving everything else behind except the bare essentials to get me there. I have a bunch of small caches along the way.
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I have two young kids, so if I have to make tracks on foot, then Target will be missing a few carts.
You might be smart to get your cart solution in place ahead of time. Or you might find out that all the shopping carts have already been taken by others before you. I never like to leave any aspect to chance. There's just too many things that can go wrong because things rarely work out as planned.
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