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Old 04-09-2011, 07:35 PM
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I know I can get it to last for about five without anythting but a cool dry place but afterward I dont know. I want to divide the bags into 1 gallon sized. I have about 100lbs right now. Any tips?
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I know I can get it to last for about five without anythting but a cool dry place but afterward I dont know. I want to divide the bags into 1 gallon sized. I have about 100lbs right now. Any tips?
Well, 1-gallon mylar bags w/ oxygen absorbers is a pretty standard approach.

I used to do 1-gallon bags a lot, but food takes up more room that way than if you store in bulk, i.e., 5-gallon buckets with large mylar bags.

You can seal the bags w/ an iron, or a hair straightener.
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how long will that stretch lifespan?
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how long will that stretch lifespan?
General consensus is somewhere between 20-30 years, depends on who you read or listen to. When writing exp. dates on my buckets I list a "use" date 15 years after storage and an exp. date 20 years after storage. That all may change once I start opening the buckets in a few more years.
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Mylar and O2 absorbers are the key to long term storage of any dried foods. This is discussed almost daily here so there are about a zillion threads full of good information to browse though.
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If you want long term storage, stay away from brown rice. It will go bad within a few months.

White rice + mylar bags + oxygen absorbers = long term storage.

Read through this list of threads about mylar bags - http://www.survivalistboards.com/tag...tag=mylar+bags

Here is a thread you might want to read about oxygen absorbers - http://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...d.php?t=162170
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Honestly, all you need is some foodsaver bags and vacuum seal it all up, throw them in bins. White rice will last longer than you will live if stored dry & vacuumed. No need to throw O2 absorbers in the bins, just make sure rodents can't get at it
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Honestly, all you need is some foodsaver bags and vacuum seal it all up, throw them in bins. White rice will last longer than you will live if stored dry & vacuumed. No need to throw O2 absorbers in the bins, just make sure rodents can't get at it
Vacuum sealing is for short term storage. The bags can't hold a vacuum for long because they have a high permeability to air. For most applications they're only good for 1-2 years.

http://www.sorbentsystems.com/longtermfoodstorage.html

Any concerned individual should be very wary of an organization trying to promote "transparent" barrier bags or the shiny metalized polyester material as a food storage bag. IMPAK does produce these bags for certain uses. Long-term food storage should never be one of them and as a consumer you have the right to a fraud claim if you have received such information.
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Honestly, all you need is some foodsaver bags and vacuum seal it all up, throw them in bins. White rice will last longer than you will live if stored dry & vacuumed. No need to throw O2 absorbers in the bins, just make sure rodents can't get at it
Why wouldn't you pack for your kids and even your grand kids? ....... a few bucks more ...... basically the cost of a food grade bucket ....... a couple hundred pounds of rice and beans packed for 30 years is a great insurance policy and possibly a life saving legacy ........
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If you want long term storage, stay away from brown rice. It will go bad within a few months.

White rice + mylar bags + oxygen absorbers = long term storage.

Read through this list of threads about mylar bags - http://www.survivalistboards.com/tag...tag=mylar+bags

Here is a thread you might want to read about oxygen absorbers - http://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...d.php?t=162170
I am aware of the brown rice short life span somethin to do with the oils I believe. Much thanks for the links though
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I am aware of the brown rice short life span somethin to do with the oils I believe. Much thanks for the links though
It's sad, too, because brown rice is so delicious!
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A great idea that I came across on SuvivalBlog is free, in fact you probably throw them away. But for rice, grains, and beans its hard to beat good old 2-liter soda bottles.

It took me 7 bottles that my wife saves for me to store 25lbs of Rice. Just funnel the rice in, add an O2 absorber or do the dry ice method.

advantages:
-resealable
-laid on their side you can stack them.
-small enogh in volume that if you open one, you dant heve a huge container to eat befor it goes bad.
-did I mention free?
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Vacuum sealing is for short term storage. The bags can't hold a vacuum for long because they have a high permeability to air. For most applications they're only good for 1-2 years.

http://www.sorbentsystems.com/longtermfoodstorage.html

Any concerned individual should be very wary of an organization trying to promote "transparent" barrier bags or the shiny metalized polyester material as a food storage bag. IMPAK does produce these bags for certain uses. Long-term food storage should never be one of them and as a consumer you have the right to a fraud claim if you have received such information.
Sure, but not all bags are short lived.
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Honestly, all you need is some foodsaver bags and vacuum seal it all up, throw them in bins. White rice will last longer than you will live if stored dry & vacuumed. No need to throw O2 absorbers in the bins, just make sure rodents can't get at it
bad idea.........vacuums are for short term storage not long term

I vacpack diff stuff all the time(mostly to waterproof or short term food/meats)

after about a year the vacuum is lost

spend the money and get the damn mylar
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my plan for the family meals is based around 70% rice in the 5 gal buckets and 30% instant potatos in no. 10 cans for the two main starches of the meal...
no 10 cans of corn, green beans, peas, and pork & beans....
dried veggies of black eyes, great northern beans, red beans, and limas (and wheat kernels of course) in the 5 gal buckets w/ the adsorbers....
I do wonder about freezing whole poultry in vacuum sealed bags.. any thoughts on whether it would last for a couple of years?
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my plan for the family meals is based around 70% rice in the 5 gal buckets and 30% instant potatos in no. 10 cans for the two main starches of the meal...
no 10 cans of corn, green beans, peas, and pork & beans....
dried veggies of black eyes, great northern beans, red beans, and limas (and wheat kernels of course) in the 5 gal buckets w/ the adsorbers....
I do wonder about freezing whole poultry in vacuum sealed bags.. any thoughts on whether it would last for a couple of years?
Keeping frozen foods from getting freezer burn is actually what the vacuum sealers were created for. They'll get a couple years easy. Even in the freezer they slowly lose their vacuum though. But I've never had any meat freezer burn in 2 years or so.
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Keeping frozen foods from getting freezer burn is actually what the vacuum sealers were created for. They'll get a couple years easy. Even in the freezer they slowly lose their vacuum though. But I've never had any meat freezer burn in 2 years or so.
thanks, Mike... that was exactly the experience info I was looking for... I'm gonna hit the stores when the turkeys and chickens go on sale vaccum seal and toss in our unused chest freezer....I might have to replenish every 2 or 3 years, but a few hundred dollars every 24-36 months will still be the cheapest insurance policy I can get
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It's sad, too, because brown rice is so delicious!
Oh no, I just bought three 10 lb bags of organic brown basmati rice. So all this rice will only last me a few months? wah. I hope TSHTF soon or I don't know what I'll do!
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Oh no, I just bought three 10 lb bags of organic brown basmati rice. So all this rice will only last me a few months? wah. I hope TSHTF soon or I don't know what I'll do!
Yeah, keep it in the freezer, it'll be fine.
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I have been storing rice in 1/2 gallon mason jars from Ace Hardware. They come 6 to case for 10FRN. I use my food savor to suckout the air and an oxy absorber from the LDS (12 cents each) A 25 pound bag of white rice from Costco fills up 7 jars. Mine are then stored in my 62 degree basement. Each jar has 32 1/4 servings. I actually measured the first one. That was 160 jars ago. They should last for years.
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