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Old 04-08-2011, 02:01 PM
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I'm wondering what you guys think one way or the other on one of these chambered in 9mm.

I like the CZ's overall design better but I'm concerned about the lack and cost of aftermarket parts compared to the Beretta.

Also, I want one in stainless steel and wonder if this is a smart option post SHTF when you can't really take the gun to your local gunshop if you have any corrosion or maintenance issues versus just the regular steel.

Thanks for your input.
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cz all the way. stainless vs. carbon, thats purely personal, you should be keeping up with the evil iron oxide on your guns anyway.
Old 04-08-2011, 02:29 PM
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Having shot both, I'd take the CZ by far. It's a better shooting, more solid gun. Plus it fit my hand better. Fit is a personal thing though, so I'd say try them both and buy the one you shoot best with.
Old 04-08-2011, 03:45 PM
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Both are available in stainless.
Both are excellent shooting guns.
Both are reliable.

After that, both are not prone to breakage.
The Beretta needs more "service" in some respects but in a post-SHTF situation, you're not likely to be shooting one enough to wear one out.

Personal preference is for the CZ but I prefer the cocked and locked option, bring a 1911 fan.

But one of my most accurate 9mm's was a 92D.
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:31 PM
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CZ's, no comparison. Lots of CZ parts just go to the right place. I replaced all my plastic guid rods with steel. Other than that it is the most accurate/reliable gun out of the box for the money. In fact even going toe to toe with the top of the line, very expensive stuff it really does not get out done. the CZ in .45 is a tad bit large. The CZ compact 9mm seems even more accurate than the full size. Lots of people say the same about the Glock 26 vs the 17/19. I tend to think it is people just shoot slower with the 26. (My only experience with Glock folks and the 26 vs 17/19 are LEO doing qualifications. In general the shoot much slower with their 26 but their scores are higher.
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i love the internal frame rails on the cz, seems it would make a pistol more accurate, that is still up for debate
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I think you'd be better off with the Beretta.
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I say CZ-75. As a unit armorer in the Army, and as a civilian, I have a lot of experience with the Beretta 92. It's a GREAT handgun, but it isn't quite the handgun that the CZ 75 is. The Beretta 92 is not capable of the accuracy that the CZ is, not that you are buying this pistol for bullseye shooting, but hey. Both pistols are reliable. The CZ is a better design, IMHO. Stronger. The Beretta just has some inherently weak areas in the slide. They aren't prone to breakage(anymore) but they are still weak.
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I say CZ-75. As a unit armorer in the Army, and as a civilian, I have a lot of experience with the Beretta 92. It's a GREAT handgun, but it isn't quite the handgun that the CZ 75 is. The Beretta 92 is not capable of the accuracy that the CZ is, not that you are buying this pistol for bullseye shooting, but hey. Both pistols are reliable. The CZ is a better design, IMHO. Stronger. The Beretta just has some inherently weak areas in the slide. They aren't prone to breakage(anymore) but they are still weak.
exactly check out the NATO trials on the SP01
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I don't know anything about the CZ and have had a Beretta since 1984. I'm biased. find which ever best fits yout hand and you can shoot the best. Beretta does have many available aftermarket parts, but after the basic pistol and some magazines, what do you really need?

The Beretta is not a pistol for those who dont have the big hands for them. Try them both, shoot them both and see which is the best fit. Along those lines, try a few others while you are at it. The Sig, Glock and Rugers to name a few. No limits on what you may end up betting everything on.

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I personally have never been able to shoot an M9 or 92fs to save my soul. I'm not sure if it's grip angle,the "fatness" of the grip, inherent accuracy, trigger pull(not the 92's strong point!) or what. I was lucky to qualify by the skin of my teeth every year in the Army, and on the civilian side I'm doing good if I can shoot a paper-plate sized group at 25 feet. My hands are not big, BTW. And the Beretta is a big 'ol girl.
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I like the CZ and also own a 92FS and "M9". I favor the CZ as it's in .40S&W, however I know and can do anything blindfolded to the 92 so I went with what I know. I must say that the beretta definately gets sexy points, the CZ is awfully ugly.

EDIT: I know I know, you choose a weapons for it's fuctionality not looks, which is why my primary carry is an XD in .40.

However if they were in a beauty contest, most beretta pistols by far...those Italians have style.
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I like the CZ and also own a 92FS and "M9". I favor the CZ as it's in .40S&W, however I know and can do anything blindfolded to the 92 so I went with what I know. I must say that the beretta definately gets sexy points, the CZ is awfully ugly.

EDIT: I know I know, you choose a weapons for it's fuctionality not looks, which is why my primary carry is an XD in .40.

However if they were in a beauty contest, most beretta pistols by far...those Italians have style.
that is up for debate, look at a cz75 sp01 shadow, come back and then tell me that is ugly.
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I would go cz because of the carry option(i carry a 1911) I like hammer back ready to rock besides heavy first trigger pull.
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If you like the design of the CZ better but like the looks/Italian heritage of the Beretta, then you should consider EAA (pistols made by the Italian arms maker Tanfoglio, imported to the USS by the European American Armory - EAA). They get great reviews for accuracy out of the box and durability/ease of maintenance all over the net.

I've got my eye on a used EAA Witness Match .45 that my local gun shop has for sale for around $350. A lot of value for your dollar.

New they run 150-200 bucks cheaper than the CZ's, are based on the same design as the CZ, and look a little nicer (?Italian influence) than the CZ in my opinion. See the all-steel full size 9mm below:

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If you like the design of the CZ better but like the looks/Italian heritage of the Beretta, then you should consider EAA (pistols made by the Italian arms maker Tanfoglio, imported to the USS by the European American Armory - EAA). They get great reviews for accuracy out of the box and durability/ease of maintenance all over the net.

I've got my eye on a used EAA Witness Match .45 that my local gun shop has for sale for around $350. A lot of value for your dollar.

New they run 150-200 bucks cheaper than the CZ's, are based on the same design as the CZ, and look a little nicer (?Italian influence) than the CZ in my opinion. See the all-steel full size 9mm below:

They're good shooters. Don't get the ones with the polymer if its used, seen one crack - if your the original owner, they'll replace it - if your not the original owner, your screwed.....
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They're good shooters. Don't get the ones with the polymer if its used, seen one crack - if your the original owner, they'll replace it - if your not the original owner, your screwed.....
been debating getting one in 10mm for a while, been holding off because of the horror stories of cracked frames (steel version) but then again people said that for years about the delta elite
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I'd rather have a SIG P226 over all of them. But with your options... I'd go with the CZ
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Beretta.

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Out of those two choices...CZ any day of the week. Both pistols are heavy if you want to carry all day. I had a few CZs...even the smaller PO-1 and it's still too heavy for my liking.

To the guy that said about the EAA Witness Match...that is a great price for one...even if it's used. The Witness Match is a solid pistol.
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