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Old 03-22-2011, 01:34 PM
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I've read quite a bit on both but each have good/bad reviews. I think I'd be fine with either but my bigger question is which one? There are so many different products making it confusing to what I need. For example, they have gauze, 25g packs, 50g packs, 10 packs of 2g ones, etc...I would like to just have a handful for emercencies. How do I know what size I need? I'm thinking a large cut or bullet wound.
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I went with Quikclot after a lot of research and talking to those who have used it. Keep a Quickclot sport in the motorcycle first aid kit, and two of the larger 1.75 oz bags in my first aid kit.
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Old 03-22-2011, 01:42 PM
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So 25g for motorcycle and 50g for home, correct?
Are those granules or are those pads? On their site all of them are either 25g or 50g ones and appear to be pads.
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I prefer the pad (Quikclot) to the granules(Celox) because you can push the pad deep into the wound if you have to, you can't do that with the granules.
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mine are the sponges...
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Don't forget your quick tie tourniquet that you can apply with one hand, in case you need to apply it to yourself.
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I have Quick Clot in my FAK. One of the ranges I go to has Quick Clot on the firing line.
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I keep three bottles of this in my medical supplies.
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I looked online and they were about the same as in stores so i went to the local outdoor store and purchased a 25g quickclot pad, but also purchased a

"Adventure Medical Kits: Trauma Pak w/ QuickClot"
1 quick clot 25g
nitrile gloves
duct tape 2"x26"
Bandage, Triangular
dressing guaze sterline 4"x4"(2)
// 2"x2"(2)
bandage/comforming gauze 3"
antiseptic wipe(4)
Plastic bag for bio waste and sucking chest wounds

20-25$$
All in one kid about the size as a the big bag of corn nuts.
Keep that in my backpack with me at all times.

GL on your choice.
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I have Quick Clot. However I would suggest stocking up on gauze rolls first and not investing too much in Quick Clot or Celox.

Gauze works great for gunshot wounds. The added advantage of gauze is that it can be torn easily to treat several wounds. Situations where this might be handy are entry and exit gunshot wounds, multiple knife wounds, and explosions that cause shrapnel. A combat medic I work with pointed this out to me and stated he only carried gauze.

But nothing wrong with the above mentioned products either.
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I've switched over to D-stat Dry/Flowable ... one of my best friends is a combat medic I served with in Central America in the late eighties. He's retired SF, and since his retirement in 2000 he has been one of the top combat medics working the contractor circuits in Iraq and Afghanistan ... he's been treating combat related injuries for the better part of the past 30 years.

He is the one that gave me the D-stat Dry/Flowable I currently have in all of my trauma kits. Google D-stat Dry/Flowable for more information - make your own decision, but it's what I am packing these days. D-stat Dry/Flowabe and a couple of tampons.

Which reminds me, I've already posted this before but we had a through and through wound (lower right abdomen) as the result of an AD at our range a few months ago and it was the first time I've ever seen a tampon employed ... popped that thing in there and viola, I was impressed. I'll be carrying them from now on.

I still carry a pouch of Celox-A as well ... just in case. But with any of the deep wound treatments, you gotta be careful.
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I just took a combat trauma first aid course for work this week and our department uses Celox from Tactical Medical Solutions.
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Celox is good stuff Comes in granules, gauze, gauze rolls. Non toxic... Also works in COLD, without the 'heat' associated with older QC. Quick clot is good, but requires hospitalization/ detox. Gauze is good, stuff it in gushing holes. 2mg size Celox is for minor bleed, with gauze over. 50 mg is for gushers...
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I apologize but I'm not seeing 50g Celox. Only 25g
Also, is that referring to the granules?
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I have 5 Quikclot 1st Response 25 gram sponges in several kits. Even in my most basic, EDC kit.

I also have numerous packages of H&H compressed gauze.
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No love for super glue?
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I've switched over to D-stat Dry/Flowable
Where do you get it?
+1 for super glue, I put my finger back on with that stuff
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No love for super glue?
Funny you should mention that. I just had some applied to a post operative wound by a surgeon last week - amazing stuff, he actually gave me some after I asked him about it. I'm looking at it now - Dermabond is the brand name and evidently it is available to the general public.

Also, I was recently told that the new Quik Clot Combat Gauze is the whoop ... quote, "will not burn like old quick clot nor will you have that powder flying around in the breeze when you open it. That stuff burns the hell out of your eyes if even a little bit gets in them."

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Where do you get it (D-Stat)?
+1 for super glue, I put my finger back on with that stuff
http://www.vascularsolutions.com/pro...tasis-products

You either need to know someone who can bring it home with them from wherever, or have a Physician in your group that can order it for you to place in your trauma kit. I lucked out and have both plus we have a Physician at our range who helps us out as well.
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I found that link as well but there is not info on ordering any, it looks like it's still in the proving phase
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I was going to go with the celox for what was stated above regarding quikclot requires hospitalization/ detox
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