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I just bought 600 LBS of hard red & white wheat, had 6 Gal buckets and Mylar bags to pack them in.... while waiting for wheat to arrive, I filled my buckets with oatmeal and rice, my question is, can I store the wheat in galvanized trash cans and then use silicon to seal the outer part of the lid? (the lids seal tight) and they will be stored cool and dry in my basement.
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It's not a good idea. get more buckets, or seal you wheat in one gallon mylar pouches and throw those in a trash can and seal them.
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I hope you also used O2 absorbers. Oxygen is the culprit with long-term storage, you want to store in an inert environment.

Unless I was planning on eating wheat in a year or two, I wouldn't store it without mylar and O2 absorbers.
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I wouldn't.
I ended up buying a co2 tank and filling my 5ers before sealing. Dry ice works too, of course.
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YES! if you line them with mylar first. I know you can get 55 gal. mylar bags.
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I use Mylar Bags in 5gal buckets, I add 1 - 2000cc O2 absorber and a couple of Tablespoons of DE (Diatomatious Earth) to each bag.

The O2 absorber should remove all of the O2 but if anything does manage to hatch the DE should kill it.
The DE also adds lots of Trace Elements to your grain when you grind it.

(Food Grade DE of course)
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Well in the town where I live in Oklahoma, you just go to the Coop and can buy wheat for about 7 dollars a bushel, a bushel weighing app. 60# at 13.5% moisture content. The weight may change with moisture content. There are tons of it stored in huge piles on the ground with tarps over them and grainarys full of wheat also, waiting for a train ride. You would be surprised to see how wheat is stored for a year or two.

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i bought it from an Amish country store, in 50 LB bags, they said it is shipped from Montana, with a brand name of Montana Gold, $26.00 per bag
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I wouldn't.
I ended up buying a co2 tank and filling my 5ers before sealing. Dry ice works too, of course.
Old technology that's even been replaced by the LDS for canning. It's been found that O2 absorbers are far more effective and safe, getting oxygen levels below the 1% needed to kill all bugs. Nothing else comes close or is as easy to do.

And I hope your 5ers have Mylar in them since the LDS have also shown that 5 gallon buckets make a poor oxygen barrier.
http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/it...ISOBOX=1&REC=1
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i bought it from an Amish country store, in 50 LB bags, they said it is shipped from Montana, with a brand name of Montana Gold, $26.00 per bag
Where did you buy this wheat? I have been buying mine from Fandrich's in Belvedere.
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I wouldn't.
I ended up buying a co2 tank and filling my 5ers before sealing. Dry ice works too, of course.
O2 absorbers lower the O2 level more than gas flushing, and if you have to buy the tank, they're cheaper too.
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Where did you buy this wheat? I have been buying mine from Fandrich's in Belvedere.
Do a board search for Wheat Montana, lots of info - even Walmart is starting to carry it in 25 lb sacks in some stores.

I get mine at Northwood Country Market in Sparta, WI, owned by a Mennonite family.
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There will soon be an Amish store opening up in my town(vineland NJ)....I can hardly wait!! I'm tired of paying shipping costs for wheat,etc in super pails.
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I'm new to grain storage and would like to convert to buying only grains and grinding my own corn meal, flour, etc. I also use grains in beer making.

I bought 25 lb bags of rye and barley from the health food store and this grain was nice and clean, organic, non-gmo. It really looks good and clean. I went back for some wheat this week and they were out but referred me to the feed store.

So, I bought 50# of wheat from the feed store and found it full of weevils. I tried to sift out as many as possible but I'm sure there are still quite a lot of them left. I sifted out about 3 lbs of bugs and fines from a 50 lb of 2 row wheat. Almost every kernel had a hole in it. I hope I haven't infested my place with them.

I repackaged the grain in 5 lb ziplock bags and put them in the freezer. I had planned to store in 5 gallon buckets without mylar since I'll be accessing the grain about once a week. But now, with this bug problem, not sure if this grain is worth saving and storing or whether I should make a lot of beer within the next couple of months.

My question is, What next? If I store in mylar bags with O2 absorbers, will this kill the bugs? Will the bugs affect the taste of the food or beer that will be made from the grain? I know we probably eat bugs on an regular basis but any recommendations for controlling this problem are appreciated.

I don't plan to purchase anymore grain from the feed store. I assume the whole place is contaminated.
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So, I bought 50# of wheat from the feed store and found it full of weevils. I tried to sift out as many as possible but I'm sure there are still quite a lot of them left. I sifted out about 3 lbs of bugs and fines from a 50 lb of 2 row wheat. Almost every kernel had a hole in it. I hope I haven't infested my place with them.
Weevils can be a problem, mostly in the Summer-Fall time frame, it's not just feedstore grain, you can get weevils in your pancake mix in the cupboard.... If I get buggy grain from the feedstore... I take it back, it apparently gets a bitter taste and even the chickens will not eat it.

It's all about rotation in a feedstore, I have one that I won't buy from because they don't rotate their feeds.

I know a feedstore that will freeze the 50# bags, but that only kills the active weevils, not the eggs.

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I'm new to grain storage and would like to convert to buying only grains and grinding my own corn meal, flour, etc. I also use grains in beer making.

I bought 25 lb bags of rye and barley from the health food store and this grain was nice and clean, organic, non-gmo. It really looks good and clean. I went back for some wheat this week and they were out but referred me to the feed store.

So, I bought 50# of wheat from the feed store and found it full of weevils. I tried to sift out as many as possible but I'm sure there are still quite a lot of them left. I sifted out about 3 lbs of bugs and fines from a 50 lb of 2 row wheat. Almost every kernel had a hole in it. I hope I haven't infested my place with them.

I repackaged the grain in 5 lb ziplock bags and put them in the freezer. I had planned to store in 5 gallon buckets without mylar since I'll be accessing the grain about once a week. But now, with this bug problem, not sure if this grain is worth saving and storing or whether I should make a lot of beer within the next couple of months.

My question is, What next? If I store in mylar bags with O2 absorbers, will this kill the bugs? Will the bugs affect the taste of the food or beer that will be made from the grain? I know we probably eat bugs on an regular basis but any recommendations for controlling this problem are appreciated.

I don't plan to purchase anymore grain from the feed store. I assume the whole place is contaminated.
Try different feedstores like azrancher said. It's all about how they do business.

An O2A in mylar will kill the bugs and eventually kill the eggs that hatch later too. No oxygen is too rough even for those hardy bugs. An O2A will not affect the taste because it only leaves the inert gasses.
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