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Old 03-01-2011, 07:30 PM
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I am looking for a decent quality scope to put on my flat top Ar. Looking for one with a mil-dot recticle and some magnification, but nothing too crazy. Would like to keep the price below $150. Does anyone have a recommendation for a decent, budget scope?
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Try BSA optics, www.bsaoptics.com
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DON'T waste your money on anything with a BSA logo. Get the Bushnell 10x...it has your MD and it's exactly $150.

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...&src=tpSlrByr2

I've had two of them on rifles and they aren't bad scopes. Don't skimp on optics...crap scopes will always be crap and you won't be able to recoup your money when you finally realize your optics are sub par.
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I am looking for a decent quality scope to put on my flat top Ar. Looking for one with a mil-dot recticle and some magnification, but nothing too crazy. Would like to keep the price below $150. Does anyone have a recommendation for a decent, budget scope?
That's a tall order.

What's your intended use for the weapon?

No one can make a coherent recommendation without knowing what you'll use it for.

For example, the poser above me suggested a fixed 10X scope. That'll work fine for varminting or punching paper from a static position, but I wouldn't want one for 3-gunning, or HD for example.
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Good, or even decent, optics are not cheap. My standard recommendation for a budget scope is a Weaver 3-10x Grand Slam Tactical when it's on sale from Midway for $300 (which tends to be every other month). But even that is double your desired budget. I've heard some good things about Primary Arms optics for the price, but I've never used one myself.
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I plan on using it at the range 100-300 yds shooting paper targets. Occasionally for shooting groundhogs also.
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High end Tasco at the minimum. Then Redfield, Older preferred to newer. Leupold, once again older preferred to newer scopes. Right on up the ladder. I buy a lot of guns. I do not allow anything for BSA, offbrand, or anything less than an older Redfield.
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If you have iron sights on it I would just use them until I aquired enough money for good optics, if not I'd get an inexpensive 4x just to get used to the gun, while saving up for what ever optic you really want, sure it will set you back $30 or so, but it might even help you decide what you do want. I have several around just for this purpose, all are fixed power (except one that is 3x9). Later on you could either sell it at a yard sale or just keep it for a spare in case you get another rifle.
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You can get a Nikon prostaff 2-7x35 right now for $95. It doesn't have mil dots...but I don't think it's that important. Nikon's are good scopes.
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I am looking for a decent quality scope to put on my flat top Ar. Looking for one with a mil-dot recticle and some magnification, but nothing too crazy. Would like to keep the price below $150. Does anyone have a recommendation for a decent, budget scope?
I have two suggestions that keep your cost way-way below $150. A compact NC Star 4x or 6x fixed focal length rifle scope with p4 milling reticle: I own one of each. 6x is on an sks and 4x is on a 9mm carbine. They've been great scopes. They have only one issue and that is that the reticle lines are thicker than I'd like them to be. Still perfectly usable for holdovers and rough rangefinding.

LINK to Optics Planet pages:
http://www.opticsplanet.net/ncstar-c...ue-sc430b.html

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http://www.opticsplanet.net/ncstar-c...ue-sc632b.html
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I don't remember if they come with rings or not but if they do, save them for some other less critical project and buy the $12 Weaver Quad Lock rings from Walmart.
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just save up a little bit extra money, it will be worth the extra wait to get quality optics that will last and have a good sight picture.
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Yeah, saving money for a better optic is the best idea, but if you have a flat top AR and you don't have detachable irons on it now then saving for better optics really isn't a good idea. Do you have a front sight post gas block or is it a railed gas block? I would go along with the other posters that recommend you use and stick with irons for now and save up a couple hundred more for a decent scope. Think of it like this - If you double your money you'll be pretty close to a used EoTech or will at least be able to afford a decent reflex sight. Hang in there. If it's worth paying money out for what you want then it has to be worth getting something you won't be disappointed with in the near future. If you HAVE to have something get a fixed 4x like a Nikon Pro Staff. They're less than $100 and will work out fine while you're saving up for something else. It will suit you just fine for your purposes.
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You can get a Nikon prostaff 2-7x35 right now for $95. It doesn't have mil dots...but I don't think it's that important. Nikon's are good scopes.
Good choice but this week Dicck's (filter doesn't like it with one c) Sporting Goods has the Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40 on sale for $100. I picked one up yesterday at the local store and am impressed with the quality. It is not a BDC reticle but there are models with that for about $50 more online. I saw one in the store but decided it wasn't worth the extra. Of course 1" mounts are necessary.
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If you buy a cheap scope, you will buy something better later and wind up with a cheap scope tossed in a drawer wasting your money. That is unless you dont shoot enough to notice the problems with cheap scopes.

NCStar is complete garbage made by China to get American mall ninja's weekly allowance money.

Do yourself a favor, buy quality fixed sights and learn to use them. I'm sorry if I come across as a jerk, but I'm tired of folks buying a $900 rifle and put a $99 POS scope on it.
That tells me:
1. They do not have enough experience to realize the importance of good equipment.
2. They think a cheap scope can perform as a quality optic.
3. They don't know how to use iron sights since 100 to 300 yards is not a problem with them.

The problem I see is that the AR with a POS scope really is more accurate than most shooters. America needs more Riflemen.
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...The problem I see is that the AR with a POS scope really is more accurate than most shooters. America needs more Riflemen.

Can't argue with that, Jeffrey! More people should start with irons then move up to optics when they understand what they want over irons. A true rifleman should be able to pick up an unfamiliar rifle and in a very short period of time be able to wring the best out of it.
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DON'T waste your money on anything with a BSA logo. Get the Bushnell 10x...it has your MD and it's exactly $150.

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...&src=tpSlrByr2

I've had two of them on rifles and they aren't bad scopes. Don't skimp on optics...crap scopes will always be crap and you won't be able to recoup your money when you finally realize your optics are sub par.

You got your best response right here in post #3. That's a great deal on a very solid scope. Mil-dots in your budget range, makes it tough. If you can't afford at least a minimum level of quality with optics ( and many other things), you're better off doing with-out. Don't skimp on JUNK. The above recommendations for the Nikons ain't bad ,either, but this 3200 Elite is your huckleberry. (seriously, you better jump on this before it disappears).
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I did leave out Nikon scopes and the upper end Bushnell. Upper end Bushnell...

I would take a Nikon over either current production field grade Leupolds and Redfields. IMO
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You get what you pay for with optics. Save up a little more and buy something decent.
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