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Old 02-28-2011, 10:09 AM
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Default New toy poll: Kel Tec RFB Bullpup .308 yes? no?



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I may pull the trigger on one.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...=218012440#PIC

I'm good with $1500-$1600 and another 1K to get started with mags and ammo etc etc


So, do you vote yes or no, and reasons why.

My SHTF bases are covered already. I like this as a "S is at the moment HTF" crazy people running everywhere heavy carbine that is short enough to run indoors/outdoors, jumping in and out of cars etc etc

And I want to move into .308 very badly.

Probably throw on a new shorty EoTech and MagPul back-ups.


PS - Can someone give me a breakdown on the whole "metric FAL mag" thing?
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If you got the scratch go for it. I haven't read anything bad about them and as a lefty I love the way it ejects shells.
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Get the RFB...pass on the EoTech...if you want a dot, go Aimpoint T1...smaller, lighter and battery life beats EoTech by a mile.

I personally wouldn't buy an RFB for $1,500 on GB, but that's just me. KT stated they will be producing more RFBs, so prices should start to stabilize.

I took my RFB out again yesterday...this time I wanted to test the hold over reticle of my 4x optic, so I went to the 200 yard (max range at my club)...and the hold over feature works very well. I am happy with the results considering my max magnification was only 4x. My groups were a little over 2MOA. I believe the RFB is a 1-2MOA rifle.

The ejecting chute is very friendly on brass for those that reload.

The more I shoot my RFB...the more I like this rifle.
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If they ever produce a bullpup design with a decent trigger pull, I may buy one. I haven't tried this one yet, but all bullpup rifles I have ever tried had an insanely heavy trigger pull.

But I still want the Keltec KSG bullpup shotgun when it's available....
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The RFB is the only semi-auto bullpup that has a good trigger. The RFB trigger is much better than my PS90 trigger.
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what's not to like...308 power , fn mags, easy design, intimadating report.....us made....
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Aren't they still having troubles with the trigger not resetting properly under some circumstances? Might want to check into it to see if that's cleared up or wait a while longer.

I had another KelTec product that I had a few problems with. Their customer care was top notch. It was aggravating because I had to send it back twice when it should have been fixed the first time, but again the customer care really was excellent.
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Post up some links...I haven't seen this issue and from reading your comments below...it sounds like multiple folks are having this issue.

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Aren't they still having troubles with the trigger not resetting properly under some circumstances? Might want to check into it to see if that's cleared up or wait a while longer.

I had another KelTec product that I had a few problems with. Their customer care was top notch. It was aggravating because I had to send it back twice when it should have been fixed the first time, but again the customer care really was excellent.
I heard of a trigger reset problem on the bull pup shotgun...but not the RFB.
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Which bullpup shotgun? Since the KSG is the only bullpup shotgun that I know of...other than the bullpup conversion kits you see online....IE the ones for the Saiga 12.

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If they ever produce a bullpup design with a decent trigger pull, I may buy one. I haven't tried this one yet, but all bullpup rifles I have ever tried had an insanely heavy trigger pull.

But I still want the Keltec KSG bullpup shotgun when it's available....
As far as I know, Kel-Tec is the only one to have solved the bullpup trigger pull issue. And they're supposedly going to offer a 5 way adjustable match grade trigger in the near future.
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If you're comfortable shelling out $15-1600 instead of waiting and picking one up for $1300, then go ahead.
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Post up some links...I haven't seen this issue and from reading your comments below...it sounds like multiple folks are having this issue.
The KSG had some issues at shot, but they said they'd get it fixed.

The problem I'm talking about happened to a friend of mine here locally and he had to send his in to have it repaired. He didn't make a post anywhere, but here's a link that is similar I found through a google search.

http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/Ya...m=1262366033/0

Maybe it's not as big of a deal as the KSG thing, I'm not sure. It's just something I'd check into before laying down that amount of cash is why I put up the info since it sounds like a possible issue and sounds similar to the KSG thing.
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Which bullpup shotgun? Since the KSG is the only bullpup shotgun that I know of...other than the bullpup conversion kits you see online....IE the ones for the Saiga 12.
I heard the trouble was on the KSG

I was not aware of the problem on the RFB


Just from the reviews I've seen.
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If you're comfortable shelling out $15-1600 instead of waiting and picking one up for $1300, then go ahead.
I'm in no hurry, I've already been waiting a while. They try and get $1850 locally (gun shops need to stop smoking that stuff)

Problem: People run and buy it out at $1850, there by encouraging it.

I may give it a month or two, but the useful gun is the one you actually have (and practiced with)
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At times, companies scramble to get a prototype for SHOT. If you know anything about KT, they don't always deliver a product as planned...kinda like Magpul. But anyway, I just talked to one of KT's engineers last week and we talked about the KSG. He said that they will be in production on time and will be released before the RMR get released.

I know I'm going to sound like a KT fanboy (which I am not at all), but I want the RMR along with the KSG as well.

I am going to be running my RFB hard very soon...I have 600 bullets that I'm going to load up and I will be using them to break in my rifle. I'll probably see if the RFB will run all 600rds without cleaning it during the process.

Grevlin, you know you want the RFB, so come over to the dark side.
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At times, companies scramble to get a prototype for SHOT. If you know anything about KT, they don't always deliver a product as planned...kinda like Magpul. But anyway, I just talked to one of KT's engineers last week and we talked about the KSG. He said that they will be in production on time and will be released before the RMR get released.

I know I'm going to sound like a KT fanboy (which I am not at all), but I want the RMR along with the KSG as well.

I am going to be running my RFB hard very soon...I have 600 bullets that I'm going to load up and I will be using them to break in my rifle. I'll probably see if the RFB will run all 600rds without cleaning it during the process.

Grevlin, you know you want the RFB, so come over to the dark side.


I sure do.

Its a .308 short bull-pup and uses common mags. Rail where you need it. Nothing there you don't want.

I friggin love the idea of it. I just wish it had more history/field experience behind it.

Please post back when you're done "playin' that piano."
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Mags for FAL come in either Metric or Inch depending on what country they came from i.e. Belguim Fal is metric, Australian L1A1 is Inch standard. I think metric mags are cheaper due to they are more common.

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None of the FAL are "cheap" anymore. The supply has simply dried up...I remember when I could buy FAL mags for $3.

I have wanted the RFB for the last two+ years...I owned (2) FALs and sold all of the mags for them...so when I finally bought my RFB in December, I only had the (1) mag that came with the rifle. When I buy a firearm, I make sure I load up on ammo/mags...by the end of the week, I had nearly 100 FAL mags.

RRA has just introduced some new FAL patterned polymer mags since the FAL pattern is what is used on their 308 AR10 variant.

Just so you know...not all metric FAL mags will work in the RFB. You will want to test each metric FAL mag to ensure that it will fit in your RFB.

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