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Old 02-22-2011, 09:24 PM
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Anyone got one of these adapters and what do you think?
http://shotgunadapter.com/
Old 02-22-2011, 09:32 PM
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Now I'm just adding my 2 cents here:

Smaller shotgun shells maybe, spread would open up a bit?

Handgun caliber = fail You would have a barrel length the size of the adapter, like what, 2 3/4 or 3 inches. With a huge hunk of iron and a single shot...
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I can tell you the rifle adapter in 308 to shoot 32 acp is about the most diabolical device Ive ever owned.

Absolutely silent, I can hear the striker fall every shot, and shoots to poa out to 50 yards

Not that I would ever use such a thing for any nefarious reasons, its just fun to play with.

Grevlin, there are adapters for shotguns shooting handgun carts that are 8 inches long. What good are they? You obviously dont hunt in areas which specify shotguns only. A long adapter in a shotgun with rifle sights, would shoot farther and more accurately than a slug. And definitely more accurately than buckshot after 50 yards.

Not that I would ever do anything like that, it would be illegal.
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My only questinns would be 1) what kind of accuracy could you expect ? and 2) what kind of velocity do uoy loose?
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I don't understand, when looked at from a survival standpoint, why you wouldn't want a couple of these if you were buggin out with shotgun.
Old 02-23-2011, 06:53 AM
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Are they rifled on the inside? If so, I would say that they are accurate like a snub nose revolver would be. And I can shoot mine pretty accurately.

The 12ga-20ga converter looks neat though but only works with bolt or break action shotguns.
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They've got Video links to them on youtube or just type shotgun adapters in the search box. They say not a replacement for a rifle. The video shows them hitting a target at 20 feet and they test fire everyone before they sell them. I was thinking about the .357 because I already use that ammo for a pistol and in a SHTF situation at close range could be effective.
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These adapters aren't any new ...... been around at least 40 years .....

They were $$$$ back then .......

I can see buying a youth a starter 12 gauge single shot and knocking it back to a 410 ....
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I don't see how the round could have any velocity whatsoever. Velocity comes from the gas pressure behind the projectile and you would lose all of that if the gas could move around the projectile because the barrel is bigger around than the projectile.
I notice he is shooting empty soda bottles or such in the video.. I would like to see a vid of him shooting a real solid target.
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I can tell you the rifle adapter in 308 to shoot 32 acp is about the most diabolical device Ive ever owned.

Absolutely silent, I can hear the striker fall every shot, and shoots to poa out to 50 yards

Not that I would ever use such a thing for any nefarious reasons, its just fun to play with.

Grevlin, there are adapters for shotguns shooting handgun carts that are 8 inches long. What good are they? You obviously dont hunt in areas which specify shotguns only. A long adapter in a shotgun with rifle sights, would shoot farther and more accurately than a slug. And definitely more accurately than buckshot after 50 yards.

Not that I would ever do anything like that, it would be illegal.
where did you find this at? and give me some details on it please
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I can tell you the rifle adapter in 308 to shoot 32 acp is about the most diabolical device Ive ever owned.

Absolutely silent, I can hear the striker fall every shot, and shoots to poa out to 50 yards
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Now THIS I could understand owning. With the projectiles being the same diameter, a rifle-pistol cartridge adapter would be a nice thing to have. But firing a projectile that is much smaller in diameter than the barrel would be very ineffective.... unless the "adapter" extended quite a ways into the barrel to give it time to build some velocity.
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I have several chamber inserts and conversion kits that I have been thinking about selling.

If you are interested give me a shout.

12 gauge to 45-70 rifled insert (10 inch and 16 inch). These only fit cylindar bore guns.
($100 each).

and a 308 to 22 converion kit for HK91 rifles and their clones - drop in kit with 2 magazines that turns your 308 rifle into a 22 caliber semi automatic for cheap plinking adn teaching new shooters ($475 plus shipping)
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I have several chamber inserts and conversion kits that I have been thinking about selling.

If you are interested give me a shout.

12 gauge to 45-70 rifled insert (10 inch and 16 inch). These only fit cylindar bore guns.
($100 each).
Wow, wish I had the money for the 45-70 rifle 16" insert.. that would be a nice toy to have. I'll have to remember to look for one after my bills are paid this coming month.
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MCA sports and Dina Arms both make adapters. My kids learned to shoot using a 22lr adapter in an older 12 guage single shot. Very quiet and accurate, good for rabbit head sized targets at 20/30 yards using a homemade rear peep sight. dmen
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I have many of these adapter for various calibers and have used them for years. I just bought the adapters for the 12 guage, 12x20 ga, 12x410,12x357,and 12x22lr. I bought these "just in case". No they are not rifled. If a person had just one gun it is nice to know there are other ammo options available if you run out of original chamberings. Though I would believe the accuracy range would be @20 yards without sights and rifling. For rifle calibers I have a few for 30-30's, 30-06, 45-70, 32 Win spl. Most of these are chambered for small pistol calibers. These were originally built for outdoorsman. These allowed the hunter to shoot small game with light weight ammo with very little noise. Most rifles required sight alterations. Iron sighted guns were easy to make shoot to POA. However scoped guns will require some guess work but is easily overcome with practice. When I hunt big game I always pocket an adapter and a few cartridges to finish of wounded game or shoot a rabbit or grouse.
Old 02-23-2011, 10:47 PM
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there are many shotguns out there that accept barrel tubes. mainly found in over/under but typically for going from 12 all the way to 410, with 16, 20, and 28 gauge in the middle.

ill stick with my auto 12 and a turkey choke loaded with 3" buck or #4.
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I am thinking of ordering the 12 gauge to .357 adaptor just as a novelty item… I will post a review if I do get it.
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I forgot a novel adapter I aquired but never used. It is a 22 WRM to 22 lr.
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After reading above posts I decieded to do some field work on my 12 guage adapters. The test was informal but fairly accurate. I first set a target at 25 yards and used a Winchester model 12 with a simple front bead sight as a test gun. The first adapter I used was the 12 guage by 357 Mag. I fired 4 shots at 25 yds. Three of four were inside a 13" circle with the fouth round another 8" below above group. Impacts were approximately to POA. Two of the bullets appear to have keyholed. This adaper is not rifled. Conclusion, in an emergency you can hit a deer sized target in the lung area at 25 yards, 3 out of 4 times. However I had difficulty ejecting the adapter as it is too long for my 2 3/4" gun. It is doable though. Next I tried 5 shots from my 12 guage x 22lr adapter. This adapter is rifled. The problem with this adapter is the fact the "bore" is offset so the centerfire gun can strike just the rim of the 22 cartridge. I marked the adapter so as to load it in same approximate place in the guns chamber everytime. I fired 5 Remington hp rounds. All landed inside a 5" circle at 25 yards and very near POA. Well worth trying again. The adapter extracted properly as it is shorter than the 357 adapter. Next I tried 1 shot from my 12 guage x 410 adapter. One shot on target at 15 yards off hand with a 3" and #6 shot. 90% of the shot was inside a 12" cicle centered on target. Again since this is a 3" adapter I had difficulty extracting the adapter inside a 2 3/4" chambered pump gun. Lastly I tried the 12 guage x 20 guage 2 3/4". Again I fired one shot at 15 yards offhand. The shell was loaded with 7/8 ozs of #8 shot. Again shot landed at center of target where aimed. No problems with extracting the adapter as it is shorter than the 410 and 357 adapters. All the pellets were within a 10" circle. Come springtime I will cronograph the above adapter and loads. Conclusion of this BRIEF test. The 22 lr and 20 guage adapters work well in a standard pump gun and worth the money as both are easy to operate and a capable emergency tool worth being in your pocket. The 357 is also "good enough" for emergeny close range deer sized game shooting. The 357 and 410 adapters will be easier to use in a longer chamber pump gum or a break action. Hope this helps.
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Now THIS I could understand owning. With the projectiles being the same diameter, a rifle-pistol cartridge adapter would be a nice thing to have. But firing a projectile that is much smaller in diameter than the barrel would be very ineffective.... unless the "adapter" extended quite a ways into the barrel to give it time to build some velocity.
In the shotguns the adapter is the barrel. There's no pressure loss over a regular barrel of whatever length the adapter is. The downside is accuracy. They aren't going to fit the barrel perfectly and repeatedly each time, and they're not going to shoot to the shotgun sights point of aim.

I don't like the shotgun adapter concept myself, but to each his own. I do, however, use a .22LR adapter in my SU-16 with decent success. Enough that I can take small game with it, without having to bring a seperate rimfire rifle to do so. But I could just as easily do the same thing by bringing my .22 pistol, which is light as a feather.
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