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It seems to me that almost all responses to a collapse of the dollar involves the creation of a one world currency/world financial government. So what happens if this attempt fails? What if America balks at the conditions. America remains the largest economy in the world. The majority of economic activity takes place within our borders and is not dependent on international trade. When people realize the main purpose of a one world currency is to cover the losses of Bankers and Elites. Many in America will say "just say No".
What happens then?
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I think many in America are already just saying no. It'll definitely be a tough struggle over who wins between the American people who want economic sovereignty and the foreign tentacles of influence that are the UN and Federal Reserve.
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It seems to me that almost all responses to a collapse of the dollar involves the creation of a one world currency/world financial government. So what happens if this attempt fails? What if America balks at the conditions. America remains the largest economy in the world. The majority of economic activity takes place within our borders and is not dependent on international trade. When people realize the main purpose of a one world currency is to cover the losses of Bankers and Elites. Many in America will say "just say No".
What happens then?
So we don't import 90% of the crap that people here buy? I'm sorry did our manufacturing base increase at some point?

We are a consumer based economy, America does not produce enough on it's own to support the country.
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It seems to me that almost all responses to a collapse of the dollar involves the creation of a one world currency/world financial government. So what happens if this attempt fails? What if America balks at the conditions. America remains the largest economy in the world. The majority of economic activity takes place within our borders and is not dependent on international trade. When people realize the main purpose of a one world currency is to cover the losses of Bankers and Elites. Many in America will say "just say No".
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The point of one world currency is not to cover losses. The point is total control of the world economy by a relative handful of people. The creation of one world currency will not fail because it's a rigged game. The problem was created specifically so that one world currency could be created in the guise of a 'solution'. It doesn't matter what many in America will say, because those in power are there precisely because they are onboard with the agenda.
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It seems to me that almost all responses to a collapse of the dollar involves the creation of a one world currency/world financial government. So what happens if this attempt fails? What if America balks at the conditions. America remains the largest economy in the world. The majority of economic activity takes place within our borders and is not dependent on international trade. When people realize the main purpose of a one world currency is to cover the losses of Bankers and Elites. Many in America will say "just say No".
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The point of one world currency is not to cover losses. The point is total control of the world economy by a relative handful of people. The creation of one world currency will not fail because it's a rigged game. The problem was created specifically so that one world currency could be created in the guise of a 'solution'. It doesn't matter what many in America will say, because those in power are there precisely because they are onboard with the agenda.
To tweak your reply just a little, It doesn't matter what many Americans will say is correct, but more importantly what will Americans DO about it.
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I here a lot of people wonder about some "One World Currency" when, in fact, we already have it: the Dollar.

Have you ever thought about the ubiquity of the Dollar? I mean, most all Crude Oil Trading by OPEC agreement is done in dollars, and the vast majority of other commodities are traded in the same - the dollar. Thus, this is why other countries are always hoarding our dollars - for they need them to conduct commodity imports.

Also, have you noticed that as the Dollar has been devaluated in the last few years, so has the Euro, Yuan, Swiss franc, UK Pound, etc? Again, this is the ubiquity of the dollar. I mean, the Bretton Woods II standard may no longer formally be in effect, but even though settlement between countries in Gold is gone, countries still seem to price thier currencies against the dollar. As a result, this gives Americans some really out-sized purchasing power, since we can create inflation and get the benefit of it before the other guys devalue their currencies accordingly. Also, this is the reason I suspect the government would be loath to give up the dollar and adopt an "International" currency under which they didn't have near 100% control.
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To tweak your reply just a little, It doesn't matter what many Americans will say is correct, but more importantly what will Americans DO about it.
Americans, and everyone else will DO as they are told. For the most part. Yes, there will be riots in places, but after a few thousand are killed, martial law put in place in the most strict application, people will just suffer in relative silence.

Don't discount WWIII either. What a way to keep everyone from seeing what's truly going on by having everyone killing eachother. West vs. East, right vs. left, pick your side and pull the trigger.

Personally I don't see how we can finish this decade without some major conflict involving most of the developed and developing nations. Empires love war, and we haven't had a decent one for a while. Like those volcanoes that brew under the surface, eventually they blow because the pressure has nowhere else to go.
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Americans, and everyone else will DO as they are told. For the most part. Yes, there will be riots in places, but after a few thousand are killed, martial law put in place in the most strict application, people will just suffer in relative silence.

Don't discount WWIII either. What a way to keep everyone from seeing what's truly going on by having everyone killing eachother. West vs. East, right vs. left, pick your side and pull the trigger.

Personally I don't see how we can finish this decade without some major conflict involving most of the developed and developing nations. Emipres love war, and we haven't had a decent one for a while. Like those volcanoes that brew under the surface, eventually they blow because the pressure has nowhere else to go.
I hate what you have just said, but I believe it is true nevertheless.

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I here a lot of people wonder about some "One World Currency" when, in fact, we already have it: the Dollar.

Have you ever thought about the ubiquity of the Dollar? I mean, most all Crude Oil Trading by OPEC agreement is done in dollars, and the vast majority of other commodities are traded in the same - the dollar. Thus, this is why other countries are always hoarding our dollars - for they need them to conduct commodity imports.
The reason for this is that the IMF (International Monetary Fund) and the World Bank, which is basically, in a nutshell "everyone getting together and deciding who's currency is the most stable (which usually means long term strongest)" deemed a little less than 50 years ago that the US Dollar would be the International Reserve Currency. THAT'S why EVERYONE uses dollars. However, and this is important, the IMF is already calling for a new IRC, started about 3 or 4 weeks ago.

Depending on who you ask they are calling for the Yuan, the Yen, BACK to the Pound (the IRC for almost 200 years prior), the Deutch Mark or something entirely new. Who knows what it will mean if it happens or if it even will. Heck, it might even be the Franc.

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The point of one world currency is not to cover losses. The point is total control of the world economy by a relative handful of people. The creation of one world currency will not fail because it's a rigged game. The problem was created specifically so that one world currency could be created in the guise of a 'solution'. It doesn't matter what many in America will say, because those in power are there precisely because they are onboard with the agenda.
You really don't think that the "powers that be and elites won't personally benefit from controlling the world economy. Just as TARP bailed out the banks and bankers (covered their losses) They'll get theirs first and most.
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You really don't think that the "powers that be and elites won't personally benefit from controlling the world economy. Just as TARP bailed out the banks and bankers (covered their losses) They'll get theirs first and most.
Sure, they'll benefit, as they always have. But the ultimate goal isn't something so obvious or shallow as just "money" and "stuff", it's about creating and enforcing a global system. This has been a goal of the elites for generations ( in fact centuries,if not millenia), and has been more than sufficiently documented, and is re-enforced on a daily basis in the world's media, to anyone paying attention.
To help illustrate this point,and for your reading pleasure, I submit the following..........



"For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
-- David Rockefeller, from his own book, "Memoirs".


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"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nation will accept the New World Order."
-- David Rockefeller speaking at a UN Business Conference, Sept. 14, 1994


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1973. After a trip to China, David Rockefeller praised Mao Tse-tung who had slaughtered over 40 million people. His report, "From a China Traveler", highlights the goals presented in UN reports such as "The Commission on Global Governance" (ISBN 0-19-827998-1; Published by Oxford University Press, 1995) and UNESCO's "Our Creative Diversity: Report on the World Commission on Culture and Development". Both focus on lofty ideals such as peace, harmony and unity in the communitarian "global" village -- a vision that demands absolute control and universal participation in facilitated small groups (modeled by the hierarchy of "soviets" or councils in Communist lands):

"One is impressed immediately by the sense of national harmony.... Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution it has obviously succeeded... in fostering high morale and community purpose. General social and economic progress is no less impressive....The enormous social advances of China have benefited greatly from the singleness of ideology and purpose.... The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in history."
-- David Rockefeller
New York Times, 8-10-1973.


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"We shall have world government whether or not we like it. The only question is whether world government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
-- James Paul Warburg - In an address to the U.S. Senate, July 17th, 1950

Warburg was the son of Paul Moritz Warburg, architect and first chairman of the Federal Reserve System and Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations, 1921-1932.

Paul Warburg was the inspiration for the Little Orphan Annie caricature called "Daddy Warbucks". It is said that at one point, he had control of 1/4 of the world's wealth. Warburg handled the financial affairs of the Rothschilds as senior partner in Kuhn-Loeb & Company, which was one of the giant investment firms in New York.

Kuhn-Loeb was run by Paul Warburg, along with brother Felix Warburg and Jacob Schiff. The firm sank millions into the Russian Revolution through another brother, Max who, at that time was head of the Warburg Banking Consortium in Germany and the Netherlands, the central bank for the German Government.


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"[The New World Order] cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United States to change it's perceptions."
-- Henry Kissinger, World Affairs Council Press Conference, Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel , April 19th 1994


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"The ultimate challenge is to shape the common concern of most countries and all major ones regarding the economic crisis, together with a common fear of jihadist terrorism, into a common strategy reinforced by the realization that the new issues like proliferation, energy and climate change permit no national or regional solution."
-- Henry Kissinger - op ed piece for the International Herald Tribune - January 12th, 2009


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"The next 15 years may well be the age of super-terrorism, when they [the Islamic terrorist (ed)] gain access to weapons of mass destruction and show a new willingness to use them . . . . Terrorists in the early years of the twenty-first century will reflect the causes that excite passion and move people to violence . . . conflict will increase until a new stasis or 'world order' is established."
-- "The Futurist" magazine, November-December 1994 issue, in an article titled "The Future Face of Terrorism"

The Futurist is published by the World Future Society, an offshoot of the Rockefeller-founded Trilateral Commission.


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"The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down ... but an end run on national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault."
-- Richard Gardner - Council on Foreign Relations Journal, April 1974, Page 558


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"The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties."
-- New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922


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"Fifty men have run America, and that's a high figure."
-- Joseph Kennedy, father of JFK, in the July 26th, l936 issue of The New York Times.


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"The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds' central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups."
-- "Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time" (Macmillan Company, 1966,) Professor Carroll Quigley of Georgetown University


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"The Council on Foreign Relations is "the establishment." Not only does it have influence and power in key decision-making positions at the highest levels of government to apply pressure from above, but it also announces and uses individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify the high level decisions for converting the U.S. from a sovereign Constitutional Republic into a servile member state of a one-world dictatorship."
-- Former Congressman John Rarick 1971


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"What is at stake is more than one small country; it is a big idea: a new world order, where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind -- peace and security, freedom, and the rule of law."
-- George Herbert Walker Bush in his 1991 State of the Union speech


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"The world can therefore seize the opportunity [Persian Gulf crisis] to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind."
-- George Herbert Walker Bush


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"It is the sacred principles enshrined in the UN Charter to which we will henceforth pledge our allegiance."
--George Bush addressing the world leaders at the UN.


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"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."
-- Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets


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"In the next century, nations, as we know it, will be obsolete. All states will recognize a single global authority."
-- Strobe Talbott - Deputy Secretary of State under Bill Clinton. Time Magazine, July 20th, 1992


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"The dirty little secret is that both houses of congress are irrelevant. America's domestic policy is now being run by Alan Greenspan and the Federal Reserve. America's foreign policy is now being run by the International Monetary Fund. When the President decides to go to war, he no longer needs a declaration of war from congress.
-- Robert Reich - Advisor to President Clinton. USA Today, January 7th, 1999


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"We need to change the international system for a global system in which new, active and creative forces recently developed - should be integrated. This system needs to include Japan. Brazil, the oil producing countries, and even the USSR, to the extent which the Soviet Union is willing to participate in a global system... the reality of our times is that a modern society such as the U.S. needs a central coordinating and renovating organ which cannot be made up of six hundred people..”
-- Zbigniew Brzezinski - Founding member of David Rockefeller's Trilateral Commission.

If it isn't obvious, the 600 people he is referring to is the U.S. Congress.
(The Trilateral Commission was founded in 1973 to create a "New International Economic Order.")
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To tweak your reply just a little, It doesn't matter what many Americans will say is correct, but more importantly what will Americans DO about it.
My point exactly. Its beyond me that other Americans just assume everyone will just roll over and accept one world government.

For all you who believe that the "Powers that Be"/ Financial Elites, there is no hope, humor me, and give me your opinions on what would happen if America rejects such a move.
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Mil-Dot-- All I can say is remember the French Revolution. See you on the ramparts/barricades!!! May the streets run red with their blood!!!
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Mil-Dot-- All I can say is remember the French Revolution. See you on the ramparts/barricades!!! May the streets run red with their blood!!!
Bro, how I wish this was our future. But I promise you, it's not.
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There may be a one world currency - but - I don't believe our US Constitution will allow it to usurp US sovereignty.

Those that would force it on us may have a little "treason" problem.

Really, our petty despots are over the line now with the role of the Not So Federal Reserve directing the Treasury to print dollars as "Federal Reserve Notes".
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My point exactly. Its beyond me that other Americans just assume everyone will just roll over and accept one world government.

For all you who believe that the "Powers that Be"/ Financial Elites, there is no hope, humor me, and give me your opinions on what would happen if America rejects such a move.
Americans will be to pre-occupied with the orchestrated dramas to clearly see what's happening. I mean, you're nearly there, who do you think ordered Bernanke to push the print button. It was not of his own doing. Anyone can see he has an IQ little higher than that of Forrest Gump.

The majority of Americans (insert any nations citizens here) are too caught up in materialism to see what's going on. I've been telling my parents for years about the economic strife coming and they always wrote me off as a little nuts. Now they can see it. It's making it to the mainstream how screwed we all are (except they imply there's a suitable solution). There's nothing anyone can do to protect themselves from the social, political and economic tsumani coming to ALL of us soon.

How soon, that's the question only time will answer. It could take another 20 years, but somehow I doubt it.
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The point of one world currency is not to cover losses. The point is total control of the world economy by a relative handful of people. The creation of one world currency will not fail because it's a rigged game. The problem was created specifically so that one world currency could be created in the guise of a 'solution'. It doesn't matter what many in America will say, because those in power are there precisely because they are onboard with the agenda.
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I here a lot of people wonder about some "One World Currency" when, in fact, we already have it: the Dollar.

Have you ever thought about the ubiquity of the Dollar? I mean, most all Crude Oil Trading by OPEC agreement is done in dollars, and the vast majority of other commodities are traded in the same - the dollar. Thus, this is why other countries are always hoarding our dollars - for they need them to conduct commodity imports.

Also, have you noticed that as the Dollar has been devaluated in the last few years, so has the Euro, Yuan, Swiss franc, UK Pound, etc? Again, this is the ubiquity of the dollar. I mean, the Bretton Woods II standard may no longer formally be in effect, but even though settlement between countries in Gold is gone, countries still seem to price thier currencies against the dollar. As a result, this gives Americans some really out-sized purchasing power, since we can create inflation and get the benefit of it before the other guys devalue their currencies accordingly. Also, this is the reason I suspect the government would be loath to give up the dollar and adopt an "International" currency under which they didn't have near 100% control.
Not to mention almost all vendors over seas will take the dollar. try using a Euro at the 7-11 here,
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I think one of the main points a lot of people are missing is the fact that the dollar is also a national currency which leads to greater privileges here in the US.

With the globalization of the dollar since WW2 up to this day the world is getting fed up with a global currency that also benefits one nation only. This actually could be a driving force for an opposition to a global currency.

The dollar is the worlds reserve currency because of oil, remove petro dollars and the game changes dramatically! There might come a time when oil is priced in something other than the dollar that all countries must exchange rate into equally in order to purchase oil. Problem is who controls the oil and the exchange rate?

The rest of the globe is looking VERY hard to level the playing field so the NWO might just have more difficult time gaining control over as opposed to the American sheep, they were easy.
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Not to mention almost all vendors over seas will take the dollar.
Wrong. That USED to be the case, but now much of the world is balking at our dollars. From what I've been told, much of Europe requires us to exchange our dollars for Euros now, in order to make purchases.We can't freely use dollars abroad like we once could.
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