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Old 02-05-2011, 11:59 AM
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I have a Winchester Model 94 30-30 that I would like to put a scope on. Since I have gotten older (boo-hoo) my distance vision isn't what it used to be and when I sight distant objects they have become blurry. So, I think I probably need to consider putting a scope on the 30-30. I would like some recommendations for a good scope (range 150 yds) for this rifle that doesn't cost a fortune. Thanks
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When my Father switched to reading glasses to see the sights , instead of distance glasses to have 100% clairty on the target, it worked well for him.

For a 30-30 I'd get a fixed 4 power, Tasco or such. Maybe used. $50 or so installed.
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I have a Win 94, and I'm getting up in age also.
What works for me is a prescription pair of yellow tinted glasses I got from Zinnioptical.com for around $15.
Makes both the target and sights very clear.
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The downside of the 94 is the top ejection. That makes it hard to mount a scope. The only options I know of are the side mounts or a scout type mount using a pistol scope or reflex sight. I have one myself, and I can relate to your problems with the sights. My eyes aren't what they used to be either. Since it's not a target gun, nor a long distance gun, a reflex sight would probably take advantage of it's best feature; the quick handling and quick pointing nature of the gun.
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I put a Millet red dot on my 94 and really like it. It doesn't magnify, but its really quick target aquisition.
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If this an older top eject, I recommend mounting a receiver sight. The narrow aperture help my aging eyes to focus on the front bead and the target at the same time.

If you have one of the newer angle eject models (like my other rifle) I would go with a 2.5x weaver or a low power variable.
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2.5x pistol scope in a scout mount or a T1 in a scout mount.

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I've had scopes on my Marlins befor, but it seemed like they didn't balance right. So I removed them. If I had to scope'em, I'd go with something short & light.
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A red dot sight is quite effective out to 150 yards, also quite light weight. I believe Aimpoint has come out with a new model with a 2 MOA dot.
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I have a Winchester Model 94 30-30 that I would like to put a scope on. Since I have gotten older (boo-hoo) my distance vision isn't what it used to be and when I sight distant objects they have become blurry. So, I think I probably need to consider putting a scope on the 30-30. I would like some recommendations for a good scope (range 150 yds) for this rifle that doesn't cost a fortune. Thanks

Getting old sucks for shooting irons, if you feel a scope is your only way out, the problem with lever actions is that the stocks are set up for iron sites and when using a scope, one has to hold your head up a little higher, losing 'cheek-weld' and feeling more recoil.

Need to pick a scope that allow mounting as low as possible. I'd look into the scopes like a 1x4 that does not have a 'bell' on the objectve lens, just a straight tube and you need a hammer extension for the eyepiece end. Then I'm seeing some folks using leather cuffs laced onto the stock (for holding ammo), but if done right, it would also 'raise' your eye.

At 50, I wear contacts so I can see 'far away' and use readers over the contact lenses for close up.

I'm finding that I can still see the front site, but it is over for v-notch rears.

Peep sights seem to be the solution. The large peep on ar-15 sights works well and I need to experiment with 'Ghost-rings'. Getting the peep as close to the eyeball seems to be the trick.

Something to ponder on. In the early 1900's, the Brits did a lot of research on the large (like .25 in) ghost ring peeps and found at 100-200 yds, the groups were only slightly larger than when using the smaller aperatures.

Something else would work on your 94, as I bet no drilling would be needed, is 'tang' sights.

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I agree with most of the above. At 30-30 ranges you only want 1x - 3x maginification. Once you go over 4X it is too much scope when something jumps up at 20 yards.
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Go to this website http://www.midwayusa.com and check out the Weaver line of scopes and their reviews.
Specifically the Weaver Classic 1x3 variable for $156.00.
Great scopes and I use one on my 94.
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I would use the Scout rail by XS sight systems
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=8...ER_SCOUT_MOUNT

And either the leupold 2.5x28mm scout scope
http://leupold.com/hunting-and-shoot...8mm-ier-scout/


The scope is what leupold calls intermediate eye relief, and is designed to be put on your lever action ahead of the reciever. With the 2.5 magnification, it'll enhance a bit, but still be nearly as fast as your old iron sights.
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I have a B&L elite 3200 3x9x40 on mine .. it works slick!
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I have a Win 94, and I'm getting up in age also.
What works for me is a prescription pair of yellow tinted glasses I got from Zinnioptical.com for around $15.
Makes both the target and sights very clear.
This is exactly what my grandfather did
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I never owned a 94 winchester. However, I do belive they're are two types of win 94's. The earlier ones are top eject. The later ones are angle eject. top eject can't be scoped.

Actually, you're doing the right thing. The target should be blurry, the front sight should be focused on. A little blur on a foot and half wide deer ain't nothing. A little blur on the sights can mean your bullet is of by almost a foot at 100 yards. A guy that showed me some good tips on iron sight shooting is in his early 70's. He can make a 100 year old gun do 1" groups with no scope at 100 yards. If he can do it, you can too.

Move up to a peep sight. Lyman 66 or XS sights make great reliable sights for the win 94. Borrow someones peep sighted rifle and give it a try before you scope.

IF you have a top eject winchester 94, then you'll need to scout scope it.

These books are not begineer's books. They do have some great hints though. Even if you go to scopes only, these books will help you out. Folks buy gismo's and gadgets but rarely spend a dime on what really helps them, knowledge and experience.

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Never liked the idea. John Wayne never had a scope on his winchester.
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I'm getting older also so I know what you mean. I'd go with a straight 4 power that should be all you need on a 30/30. Have it installed 94s are kind of tricky!!
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