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Military CUCV 8 9.64%
Small 4cyl engine 4WD Pickup 31 37.35%
Small 4cyl engine 2WD Pickup 2 2.41%
Full Size Gas Pickup 2WD or 4WD 18 21.69%
Full Size Diesal Pickup 2WD or 4WD 24 28.92%
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Old 06-09-2008, 07:53 PM
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I am trying to decide a couple of things regarding a good, reliable vehicle to have in the event of a SHTF/EOTWAWKI event. I own a Jeep Comanche pickup, and it has a new engine, runs super good. The drawbacks are it is not 4wd, and it is a 6cyl. Here are a few questions I am trying answer for myself:
1. How much travel will I do after TSHTF?
2. Available fuel, and fuel costs?
3. Importance of 4wd?
4. Reliability of vehicle.
5. Availability of spare parts for vehicle.
6. Will vehicle run off of alternative fuels?
7. Most bang for the buck vehicle.

I have looked at several used trucks, ranging from Toyota 4x4s to Chevy S-10 4wds. I have also looked at some surplus CUCV type vehicles (Blazers and Trucks). While a 4cyl gas engine will get the best fuel mileage, a diesel engine can be adapted to run off of homemade bio fuels. What do some of you have for a BOV, or general use vehicle? What are some pros and cons? Thanks!
Old 06-09-2008, 11:28 PM
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the best thing i have ever seen for 4wd and factory clearance is the land cruiser. and the best land cruiser i can suggest is a 6 cylendar diesel. i know someone with an '81 station wagon cruiser and he idols (feet off the gas) up the local coulee crests (50 deg with short grass) in 1 low. he drives across ditches without ever bottoming out, and its good enough on the road that it is also his primary road vehicle, commuting to work and back every day at over 200 km/day. has over 900,000 km on it.

oh, and it has no computer, haha.

HINT: E.M.P. fries vehicles running on computers.
Old 06-09-2008, 11:33 PM
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keep in mind that era of cruisers have the SUPER heavy diffs and axles from a the 3 ton trucks. they will take a beating. also, a lower center of gravity than your average jeep. also, the longer wheel base allows for more stability while still giving generous clearance. these vehicles were meant to be abused and still survive in the toughest conditions, like in potash mines and desert safaris.
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I would have to agree that a Toyota is one tough vehicle that can take alot of abuse, but finding parts if it does break may be a little interesting. I would say a half ton Chevy 4wd truck, for the simple reason that you can find parts can be interchanged with quite a few years. What better vehicle to have then one that it cheap to buy initially, reliable, cheap to maintain, and when the SHTF you can find parts everywhere.
Old 06-10-2008, 02:40 AM
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army ranger cousin in afghanistan/iraq has used the small toyota 4x4's with gun mounted on the roof and says they are the bomb and wouldn't use anything else if given a choice
Old 06-10-2008, 06:24 AM
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with the exception of the USA the rest of the world, including the 3rd world use toyota diesel's they are tough as nails, will run on jsut about the worst fuel you can find and dont break
Old 06-12-2008, 04:07 PM
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My BOV is a suzuki samurai with a Toyota 22R on propane. It's super compact, I have plenty of storage space in the back and on the roof, and if traffic is out of control, it's linked/locked front and rear and is small enough to simply drive through anything most other vehicles can't. With two 10 gallon 'pane tanks, I'll have more than enough fuel to get to my BOL.
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i'd like to have a small 4x4 for considering gas prices are not every going down. and the fact that u need a bov with a little somthing to get u out of a pinch.
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THE BEST mpg in 4wd are- suzuki samurai, geo/chevy tracker and suzuki sidekick. 30 mpg average, 4wd. no other vehicle that is 4wd will touch that. diesels are cool cuz u may be able to make your own fuel after TSHTF. although any gas engine can run on propane, which may be more abundant after TSHTF. any internal combustian engine can be converted to run on wood gas, look that sh!t up!
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my bov is my 89 dakota 4x4 8ft bed
it has a fuel inj v6 5spd
i like the size of the dakota and the 8ft bed w/camper shell is a plus
im curently dong small repairs that caused me to park it
but am working on it with a new sense of urgency
its a little rusty but i trust it to grt us to saftey
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If you're going off road or you live in snow country, a 4WD is a must in my opinion. If I didn't have a 4WD in snow country, I would have a front wheel drive. I've driven both front and rear wheel drives in the snow and the front wheel blows rear wheel away. I happen to live right by the mountains so driving up a dirt road that's wet and muddy or covered with snow will require a 4WD and even then there's no guarantee I will make it far. I prefer the 8 cyl engine but fuel is an issue these days. I am thinking very seriously about buying a quad runner or something like that. I'm even considering a motor cycle like the old "Enduros".
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we have a 98 Jeep Cherokee that has been modified

I have been offroading and building jeeps since 1996...... I am jeep biased lol

Our jeep and trailer will pull my family as far as we need to with very little effort...

The jeep boasts the following upgrades

custom built and tested long arm suspension
33 inch tires
axles are geared to 4.88
traction locking device in the front and the rear has a custom machined mini spool
chromoly axle shafts both front and rear
full size spare tire
10,000# winch
On board air compresor
and other goodies.

our trailer is a 4 foot by 4 foot boxed steel trailer with provisions made to carry 6 - 5 gallon military style jerry cans

The jeep runs perfectly and is not a daily driver

Jay

I can post pics of the jeep if some want to see it :D I love my jeep..

we have freinds here locally that do diesel conversions on jeeps...but the initial cost is hefty..... maybe some day *sigh* lol
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I have a 1980 Full Size Jeep Cherokee that I'm building as a BOV. I bought one of the CUCV trucks and pulled the entire drivetrain and axles to transplant into the Jeep.

If your vehicle is powered by diesel, it will also burn home heating oil, kerosene, JP5 jet fuel, JP8 jet fuel, and if you decide to do a Veg-Oil conversion, used cooking oil. They are much more versatile and make more sense to me as a BOV.
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I can only speak for myself and my situation. I'll rely on my Jeep CJ5, v8 manual 4.10 geared lifted stump puller for overland and crisis assist. i also have relatives that one a m1 military grade hummer, a deuce-and-a-half, a jeep cherokee and a jeep commander... i should be able to get there if i'm supposed to and the diesels will run on other fuels also...should be ok
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ahhhh !!! apologies to my earlier post.... a HUMVEE ! not a hummer...
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Those with families (like me) have to have seating for 4 or more. I just picked up a 2000 explorer.
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I'm a toyota man meself. I just bought an FJ and love it. It will go just about anywhere, gets about 20 mpg, not too bad, and has power to spare.

I guess the only beef is the color. Yeah it's not much of a BOV if it stands out like that, I know. BUT, we got it as a cretified used vehicle w/ 10yr/100, 000 mile warranty for about 12k less than the sticker. It only had 3004 miles when we got it.

I keep 2gal of Olive drab mil-surp paint in my shop, I could have it covered in less than an hour, wife would pass out but if TSHTF who cares.
It actually is camo right now, it blends in w/ all the yuppie scum in my area:D

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[QUOTE=SIXPACK
If your vehicle is powered by diesel, it will also burn home heating oil, kerosene, JP5 jet fuel, JP8 jet fuel, and if you decide to do a Veg-Oil conversion, used cooking oil. They are much more versatile and make more sense to me as a BOV.[/QUOTE]

Thats the same reason i picked diesel 4x4. i saw my cousin mix white kerosene with transmission fluid and put it in a old farm-all trackter from 1944. and it worked
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I still suggest a full SUV of some sort....reason being....space to load stuff and at worse somewhere dry till a proper shelter is buit...just my thoughts.
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I have always had a Warn 8000 winch on my trucks. Two wheel drives have had a rear locker. The others were 4 x 4 . I went anywhere I wanted with either type drivetrain. The exception: not in and out of the cab as often with 4 x 4. The winch is the equalizer. Best addition I ever installed.
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