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Old 01-16-2011, 12:50 PM
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This set up is not the most comfy, but it's functional

http://www.radshelters4u.com/mini-blast-shelter.htm



Another inexpensive style
http://home.howstuffworks.com/home-i...t-shelter3.htm
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Then there's plans to build a better set up
http://www.uaff.info/build_a_blast_shelter.pdf
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For those, for whom money is no object this is the shelter for you!!
http://www.bomb-shelter.net/


Posted this one before here:
http://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...d.php?t=126133
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For some real info on what to do in a nuclear attack, everyone should watch this
http://www.spike.com/full-episode/nuclear-attack/34350
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At times the water table is less than 18" deep in our part of the world. I thought about mounding dirt over a cargo container above ground. It would eliminate flooding and still have two or three feet of earth over the living area.
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At times the water table is less than 18" deep in our part of the world. I thought about mounding dirt over a cargo container above ground. It would eliminate flooding and still have two or three feet of earth over the living area.
Make sure to round the edges of any fallout shelter. It dramatically increases its blast protection. A big square shipping container with dirt around it would not be much unless enough dirt was used to round out the shelter.
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For some real info on what to do in a nuclear attack, everyone should watch this
http://www.spike.com/full-episode/nuclear-attack/34350
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Then there's plans to build a better set up
http://www.uaff.info/build_a_blast_shelter.pdf
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The fact is that a nuclear attack may well be a smaller device and that the fallout will pose the largest threat to the greatest number of people. The OP posted a good alternative as it is best to be underground to avoid the most fallout.

The biggest problem with the shelter might be to keep people from using it for unapproved uses. lol
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This set up is not the most comfy, but it's functional

http://www.radshelters4u.com/mini-blast-shelter.htm



Another inexpensive style
http://home.howstuffworks.com/home-i...t-shelter3.htm
That galv pipe is a good idea except it will rust. Id suggest using this type of self sealing concrete after burying this pipe.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0422175336.htm
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The shelter in the OP might also make a great cache container. Plant some bushes around the two lids and paint them or bury them just below the surface. If you aren't worried about metal detectors.
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Interesting concept. Kind of reminds me of a submarine. It could work with some tweaking!
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If you're planning on being down in this thing 1-2 hours, maybe a couple days, then it's fine. But for a actual nuclear attack where fallout will be your greatest concern, you'll need to stay down there for days, maybe months. In which case, this shelter wouldn't do you much good.
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I was just thinking how in the world would you go to the bathroom in this thing? Where would the waste be stored?

Cache, absolutely, it could also double as a root cellar, storm shelter, temporary nuclear blast shelter, BO storage facility. You name it.

3200.00 isnt really a whole lot. Could do that with this years tax return.
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I was just thinking how in the world would you go to the bathroom in this thing? Where would the waste be stored?
I was wondering the same thing! As was mentioned, would make for a great storage container, but I don't fancy living in it. That waste thing, is one that definitely needs more thought for this design. A day might be survivable, but even that, with a few people, the stench would become pretty thick!
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After reading their site they recommend the bag and discard later technique. I dont know if that's a good idea however would work i suppose. I was thinking of putting a collection tank below the tank prior to installation and simply installing a small camode. I mean a small hole in he bottom to a tank cant hurt right?

Plus after reading their site they say that 99% of radiation will be gone after 48 hours. Don't know how accurate that is.
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"The cave is your grave"
I usually like your posts but this one makes little sense. Everything I have read and experienced first hand regarding fallout and other underground shelters is that they are the best protection from storms, especially tornadoes, fallout, raiders if the shelter is built right...

A quote from the Retreat Checklist > "A shelter must be a buttoned-up, closed-in place that will protect the inhabitants from a hostile environment. Such as fallout, tornadoes etc.

A bunker is designed primarily to defend strategic locations from hostile intruders." The best ones can do both.

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I was just thinking how in the world would you go to the bathroom in this thing? Where would the waste be stored?

Cache, absolutely, it could also double as a root cellar, storm shelter, temporary nuclear blast shelter, BO storage facility. You name it.

3200.00 isnt really a whole lot. Could do that with this years tax return.
Maybe your tax return or many others; I personally know not too many with that much. You maybe are having too much withheld?

And while the OP is interesting and is a better than nothing kind of shelter there are better and much more less expensive ones.

Here is the best and The Least expensive > http://www.oism.org/nwss/s73p933.htm

Which I used those plans to build my bunker/fallout/storm/storage shelter. As shown in the Everything about Bunkers thread and where I tell exactly how I built my bunker with many pics > http://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...d.php?t=107463

Quite a few others also tell about their bunkers and fallout shelters throughout that thread. Not sure if many miss that thread or just don't like it or what??

My bunker which is mainly an underground cabin and has served as a storage and storm shelter, cost around $2,000, mainly for the cost of the 250 eighty pound bags of concrete. I could have built it for maybe $100 using only poles and logs from all of the dead trees on and near my land. I also salvaged many materials.

This excellent book tells all one needs to know about how to survive fallout and many other scenarios. Including what to do with waste etc. > www.oism.org/nwss
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For those, for whom money is no object this is the shelter for you!!
http://www.bomb-shelter.net/


Posted this one before here:
http://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...d.php?t=126133
Forget using it as a shelter. Just live in it!
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The shelter in the OP might also make a great cache container. Plant some bushes around the two lids and paint them or bury them just below the surface. If you aren't worried about metal detectors.
Disguise them to look like tree stumps-ala-Hogans Heros
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