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Old 11-30-2010, 09:20 PM
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I'm packing my winter ditch/accident bag to keep in my car for the season.

I drive around a lot in flip flops, so I'm packing some wool socks and a pair of old hiking shoes, hand/foot warmers, wool blanket, sweater, hat, gloves, first aid kit, small gun, knife, paracord, mask, etc...

I'd like to keep some water in the trunk along with the bag... what would you do to keep containers from bursting?
Old 11-30-2010, 09:29 PM
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open in and pour out some water squeeze it a little and seal it. It will still freeze but not burst. Juice bag type pouches of water (or juice) don't burst either, you just have to sit on them a while to get them to melt (kind of like hatching an egg
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I feel like this is a dumb question, but will regular bottled water burst? I'd like it to have a long shelf life..
Old 11-30-2010, 09:41 PM
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you want a bottle that will allow water to expand as it freezes. screw cap bottles are the best! they keep water fresh the longest. the bottles with rip off caps are only good for 6 months at best. with the screw cap bottle you can open it up and take a cup of water out and drink it. then close the bottle and it should be ok if it ever freezes.
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Cool. I always rotate the bag in and out with the seasons to refresh things, so some clean water shouldn't be an issue. Thanks guys.
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In the summer, we freeze the disposable water bottles. They provide sips of cold water for hrs. Just keep bottles upright. I don't recall of a bottle splitting open.
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In the summer, we freeze the disposable water bottles. They provide sips of cold water for hrs. Just keep bottles upright. I don't recall of a bottle splitting open.
Take that one step further just in case (I have had the same experience--I've never had one burst, and I keep the odd bottle or two in my car in the winter here in Wisconsin, they have never burst).

Get a ziplock back or some sort of otherwise waterproof container and store them in that. This way, if you ever do have a burst, it's contained.
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Don't store water, store a sports drink like Gatoraid.

I keep Gatoraid in all my vechicles and so far it has not frozen even when I leave them
out side all night with temps in the tens.

Not only is it a source of fluids it is also a source of calories, something you will need if you are stuck in your car in a blizzard.
Your will need the electrolytes as well if you will be on foot.


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Don't store water, store a sports drink like Gatoraid.

I keep Gatoraid in all my vechicles and so far it has not frozen even when I leave them
out side all night with temps in the tens.

Not only is it a source of fluids it is also a source of calories, something you will need if you are stuck in your car in a blizzard.
Your will need the electrolytes as well if you will be on foot.


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I always keep a case of water in my car all year long and have never had a bottle burst. My car sits outside in michigan weather. often the water will not freeze until it gets well below zero for extended periods, and even when the outer bottles freeze, some of the inner bottle will remain liquid until opened, and then they will turn to slush.
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In the summer, we freeze the disposable water bottles. They provide sips of cold water for hrs. Just keep bottles upright. I don't recall of a bottle splitting open.
I actually use frozen bottles as ice packs in my cooler and 2 gallon water jug. Works pretty well. As long as you take a drink out them before they freeze there shouldn't be any leaking issues due to freezing.
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Before Y2K, I bought a dozen of these and carried them in the tool box of my truck for 7 years. Been through many Western PA winters and froze solid often. Never had one leak or burst. Still use them to carry water to the chickens everyday - been out in the weather/sunlight and still only have had 1 spring a leak (after I stepped on it!) I got the ones without the spigot.

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Store you water bottles in a cooler (ice chest) they wont freeze at all in there.
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While Gatorade has a little resistance to freezing, it will freeze in the bed of a truck overnight in 22 degree temps. Personal experience.
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>so just how cold does it get in Hawaii


I am in WV. HI is what I used for my fake ID. OSPEC.

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Long time listener, first time caller.

I'm packing my winter ditch/accident bag to keep in my car for the season.

I drive around a lot in flip flops, so I'm packing some wool socks and a pair of old hiking shoes, hand/foot warmers, wool blanket, sweater, hat, gloves, first aid kit, small gun, knife, paracord, mask, etc...

I'd like to keep some water in the trunk along with the bag... what would you do to keep containers from bursting?
Aaron Getting stuck in the car in winter is what got me on the road to being prepared for things to happen in life. Long story short. A local man (SW Virginia man) was trapped in his car for 3 days after going over an embankment on a snowy night. He was trapped in his seat by the steering wheel. My reason for chiming in is i always keep my car bag in reach of the driver's seat that way if this happens to me i can get to it. I also think if you dont you might want to add food to your kit. something you could eat out of the package needing no prep or heat. Funny note to this story he burned the pages out of his first aid text book to stay warm.
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>so just how cold does it get in Hawaii


I am in WV. HI is what I used for my fake ID. OSPEC.

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living in florida i have never thought of this concern, thanx for the thread. i do store
16oz water bottles in my freezer to take with me when i go out for the day. they have never burst on me. they do become misshapen when the bottom pops out, so you cant set one down and expect it to stay up right, but that is what i would(and do ,come to think of it) in my BOB and vehicle
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Add some Prestone Anti-freeze!


I use the military two-quart bladder canteens. Just don't fill them completely.

I've also store water bottles in one of those styrofoam ice chests with excellent results.
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I only carry a couple of quarts in my bag and take it inside with me. If I want frozen water, I'll melt snow.
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