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Old 11-27-2010, 10:28 AM
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has anyone soaked lacquered ammo in acetone to get rid of laquer?the rangemaster told me to try that.everytime i shoot it i end up having failure to eject. i still have200 rounds left and im not gonna not shoot it.it seems no ars like wolf from what ive heard.
Old 11-27-2010, 12:04 PM
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I'm not sure that I would soak it in acetone. Maybe you could wipe it down but soaking would possibly seep into the cartridge and that would present some different issues.
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I'm not sure that I would soak it in acetone. Maybe you could wipe it down but soaking would possibly seep into the cartridge and that would present some different issues.
thats kinda what I was thinking, ill probably just use wifes nail stuff .it seems to work on nail polish.
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I would "never" run lacquered ammo thru an AR platform rifle. My AK's, SKS's, and Mini 30, digest that junk ok,, but by and large --its filthy stuff to shoot. Take that 200 rounds and sell it off--get some brass cased--theirs a lot of Lake City stuff available out their today, and UltraMax runs some specials on 55gr.fmj from time to time. Just my 2 cents!
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Steel case ammo in AR's regardless of if it's Lacquer or polymer coated presents a problem because steel case ammo doesn't expand to fill the chamber and then contract slightly before extraction like brass.

The lack of similar expansion by the steel case allow excess carbon buildup to occur in the tighter spec chamber of the AR and similar type weapons to the point that you get FTE problem. The problem will be even more apparent if your fire brass case ammo behind the steel case ammo without cleaning the chamber of the excess carbon. Stuck cases or the extractor ripping the rim off the case can occur.

The best place to use the Acetone would be on the chamber of your weapon to remove the excess carbon buildup,Acetone does an excellent job of this,it's one of the four ingredients of Ed's Red bore cleaner.
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thanks, i will never by that crap in 5.56 again.ive always used it in my sks..no problem.the ar cant stand it. ill probably trade it or give it away.
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The AR platform can be picky about what it eats. Some of the stuff I load for my bolt .223 won't even chamber in an AR. It demands full case sizing, most bolt guns will take neck sized ammo.
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My AR has eaten a couple thousand rounds of lacquer coated cases.. Still firing fine without failures. I clean my junk with "Hoppes#9 copper solvent".
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My AR has eaten a couple thousand rounds of lacquer coated cases.. Still firing fine without failures. I clean my junk with "Hoppes#9 copper solvent".

You know that you can fix that with a new barrel . . .right?



Regarding "soaking" ammo in acetone to remove the lacquer stuff . . . I dunno, that might work. But I can say for certain that I would not be brave enough to try it. Well, unless I was going to give that ammo to my kid brother to shoot.
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I dont own an AR, but I would not purchase anymore steel cased ammo for it. I would still use that ammo up.

LAquer cases can cause a few problems. If causal shooting heats up the chamber a good bit, the laquer start to melt and get onto your chamber. Limit yourself to 5 shots, then let it cool down. Also, IF you do get it good and hot, leave the gun unchambered to cool off. The hot chamber starts cooking the laquer in that case over a few minutes.

When done shooting, clean the chamber with a chamber brush. On my SKS, I reguarly clean the chamber with a .45 cal brush and some bore solvent. For newly aquired rifles, I generally use lacquer thinner.
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Save the laquered for the guns that can handle it. Stay with OTC or US surplus. Them poor guns can't handle the stuff like SKs and AKs.
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thanks, i will never by that crap in 5.56 again.ive always used it in my sks..no problem.the ar cant stand it. ill probably trade it or give it away.
Send it my way....my mini 14's eat that stuff for lunch.
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My AR has eaten a couple thousand rounds of lacquer coated cases.. Still firing fine without failures. I clean my junk with "Hoppes#9 copper solvent".
Good old break cleaner works well too, and its a little cheaper than using all your Hoppe's
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http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM2907-1.html

So is this ammo not suitable to fire in my new Bushmaster? I know it's not real good ammo and will be dirty/poor accuracy but I never thought it could HURT my new baby, am I taking a damage risk here ? Thanks
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So is this ammo not suitable to fire in my new Bushmaster? I know it's not real good ammo and will be dirty/poor accuracy but I never thought it could HURT my new baby, am I taking a damage risk here ? Thanks

It's fine, Not going to hurt the baby.
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Send it my way....my mini 14's eat that stuff for lunch.
Yup.
Just smoke like hell in the breech from that hot lacquer burning off, but just keep on spitting them bullets downrange.

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I got zinc plated steel cased ammo for practice. It is the same price as lacquer coated but much cleaner.
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I use 75grn wolf through my colt6920 and sig556 without any problems. One ftf on the sig. Probably have put 500 through each
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It's fine, Not going to hurt the baby.
Thanks much Swampwood, I was worried and that helped give me some relief.. Appreciate it.

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I use 75grn wolf through my colt6920 and sig556 without any problems. One ftf on the sig. Probably have put 500 through each

Two things: See I hear Colts are the best (I wanted a Colt very much!) and Sigs are just awesome awesome, but if you are using the cheap ammo on such high quality rifles that means you don't see any problems right?

Also, I have a 1-9 twist on my Bushmaster (According to the CHART apparently, I have the sh!tty deal and dont have a 1-7) and someone said with a 1-9 I need to use 55gr rounds. What happens if I use different rounds like your 75 gr? or what have you, I never really paid much attention to bullet weights, maybe I should, I mean I just nver thought it made much difference to my plinking and HD purposes.
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So is this ammo not suitable to fire in my new Bushmaster? I know it's not real good ammo and will be dirty/poor accuracy but I never thought it could HURT my new baby, am I taking a damage risk here ? Thanks
I doubt it will hurt it. But if I remember right, Bushmaster is one of several makers who will void the warranty if you shoot steel case ammo in it. I'm sure they have their reasons.
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