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Old 11-10-2010, 06:58 PM
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I don't have experience with either weapon, is it as simple as the difference between .223 and 7.62 mm?
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I haven't looked around in awhile now, but how hard is it to find high capacity mags for the mini30?

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There are at least 3 long threads on this topic that are fairly recent. All the info you would ever want is in those.
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well i prefer the 14 over the 30, but thats because i have an sks to shoot 7.62 out of.
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Get 'em both.
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I have heard - meaning this is not first hand knowledge - that Ruger has never had the accuracy issues with the mini-30 that they have had with the mini-14.

Either way, I'd probably still go for the mini-30. Well, you know, unless I had a bunch of poodles to shoot.
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There are at least 3 long threads on this topic that are fairly recent. All the info you would ever want is in those.
Jida is correct. Youtube and perfectunion are two other sources as well.

Ruger now makes factory high capacity magazines for both mini's for those who don't live in a magazine capacity restricted state, (like I do).

I bought a brand new mini-30 in July of this year but haven't fired it yet. Please don't ask why, I feel bad enough as it is. I have fired a mini 30 1990 model back in 1990 and there were no malfunctions. This rifle had a very low round count less than 300 if I remember correctly.

I prefer a wood stock to the new synthetic one, but that can be changed if it keeps bothering me. YMMV.
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...Ruger now makes factory high capacity magazines for both mini's ...
Only 20 rounders max for the Mini30.

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20 rounds seems like plenty for a weapon that's not fully automatic. We're target shooting or hunting, not facing human wave attacks.
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20 rounds seems like plenty for a weapon that's not fully automatic. We're target shooting or hunting, not facing human wave attacks.
It is plenty to me, just clarifying.I have mostly 20 rounders for my Mini14, as they just seem to balance the rifle out better than the 30 rounders.

Though, by virtue of even discussing firearms on this forum, "human wave attacks" (or at least a dozen or so antagonists) is a logical consideration.

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What are you shooting? At what distance(s)? That determines your choice of gun.

If you're thinking a deer rifle then it has to go with the Mini 30 since most states (which does not mean all) do not allow .22 rim or centerfire calibres to be used on big game (No, pigs are feral in most places)...Until the fecal matters encounters the oscillating aero stimulating device you'll have to abide by the laws of where YOU live not other posters whose states follishly allow .220 deer hunting.

Also, remember that most states have a five (5) round maximum for their semi auto, clip fed rifles--oh, right, it's mags to you Yanks!
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Also, remember that most states have a five (5) round maximum for their semi auto, clip fed rifles--oh, right, it's mags to you Yanks!
Oh no. Time out!

If ya'll call magazines clips, what do you call clips?



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If I was going to buy another Mini......I'd opt for the 6.8!

Anybody north of I-10 is a damn Yank anyway...that includes Canada....
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Ditto on the 6.8. Then it could double as a good hunting rifle although ammo is a little more.
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If I was going to buy another Mini......I'd opt for the 6.8!

Anybody north of I-10 is a damn Yank anyway...that includes Canada....
I had totally forgotten about 6.8 mm mini. Thanks!

Also, I should not have called the Ruger mags high capacity, they are normal capacity or non-restricted. The propaganda even gets me sometimes
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IF pursuing big game hunting with this rifle. I would get the mini-30 and then use hunting soft points with them. Inside of 150 yards, that mini-30 will do better on deer with the right ammunition. Although you can still successfully hunt with the .223 model. However, check your state and local laws. Some states do not allow .22 cal for big game, some do not allow any semi-automatics, and a few states are shotgun or muzzleloader only. Call the local game warden and ask.

IF casual shooting is the main interest, get the mini-14.

They make a mini 6.8 spc, now I want one. Was tempted to get a rifle in 6.8 and try it out.

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Oh no. Time out!

If ya'll call magazines clips, what do you call clips?
Strippers, feeders, rippers, en bloc, moon, daisies!

Your Krag-Jorgensen and 1903 both had internal magazines but you got confused when you saw the SMLE with the detachable magazine (for cleaning purposes only as it was fed by stripper clips) and started calling them magazines as well...This was before Luger and JMB designed their clip (detachable box magazine) fed pistols.

Just because YOU call it so in the USA doesn't mean the rest of the world does or wants to...unfortunately, you're corrupting the English language.
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"In the midst of battle I found myself needing to stuff a daisy in my weapon."

"In preparation for the upcoming charge I had to go find my rifle a stripper."


Well, OK. If that sounds right to you . . .
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Strippers, feeders, rippers, en bloc, moon, daisies!

Your Krag-Jorgensen and 1903 both had internal magazines but you got confused when you saw the SMLE with the detachable magazine (for cleaning purposes only as it was fed by stripper clips) and started calling them magazines as well...This was before Luger and JMB designed their clip (detachable box magazine) fed pistols.

Just because YOU call it so in the USA doesn't mean the rest of the world does or wants to...unfortunately, you're corrupting the English language.
Not the magazine/clip debate....again. Well woopidy doooooo!

So far, YOU are the only one calling a magazine a clip. I have several freinds that live north of the border, and they call a mag a mag, and a clip a clip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee-Enfield

Notice the first paragraph here.

The Lee-Enfield bolt-action, magazine-fed, repeating rifle was the main firearm used by the military forces of the British Empire and Commonwealth during the first half of the 20th century. It was the British Army's standard rifle from its official adoption in 1895 until 1957.

Keep reading until you get to the part about it featuring a 10rd magazine.

Keep reading until you get to the part about it being loaded from the top with one round at a time or use of 5 rd chargers.

Notice that the word "chargers is the color blue. click on it and it will take you here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stripper_clip

Notice the little picture off to the right on this page.

Fass 90 In the pic, it states very clearly what the difference is between a magazine and a stripper clip.

My 5yr old grandson even knows the difference.

Then again, good ole Wiki just might be in on the conspiracy to corrupt the English language like us Yanks. ( The plot thickens)

C'mon now son.

Tell me your just foolin?

BTW....... The OP didnt mention using either to hunt with?

OP. What fricken state are you from? do you plan on hunting at all, or plinking at paper plates? 7.62x39mm leaves a bigger hole through a paper plate than 223. Cost of ammo, and weight of ammo are different, but a quick google will get you tons of info there. Both will kill deer, people, and poodles, as I have seen it done first hand..........with exception of poodles.

Save your pennies and get an LRB Arms M14SA Tanker. 7.62x51mm will put a hole through your paper plate, a hole through the tree that the plate is hanging off of, and kill the deer, person, and poodle hiding on the other side like ducks in a row, because they didn't know the difference between cover and concealment.

Check with your state laws to insure that this is legal.

Realize that I'm kidding here for the most part.




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Match you barrel twist to your ammo very carefully if you get the Mini 14. The Mini 14 is a tack driver with the right weight bullet, but they have changed the twist numerous times over the years... and firing the wrong weight bullet with the wrong twist will give you a bullet that doesn't stabilize properly.

Also, the Mini 14 is a military design. It handles 556 as well as 223.
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