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Old 10-24-2010, 03:15 PM
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I'm looking to buy my first shotgun, I've been looking at the 870s for a while until one of the guys at the gun shop handed me the 887. It seems to have a lot going for it for the price, but that makes me a little nervous.

I'll be using it for defensive shooting events, I borrowed a buddies 870 for the last event and had a blast.

Any opinions? Other than it's ugly as hell and has too much plastic (but it'll match the Glock...).
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I'd probably go with Old Faithful (870), just because it's been proven over time and the 887 has had such mixed reviews.
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I second the 870 personaly, my first shotgun was a remington 870 wingmaster in 20 gauge. still have it to this day and love it
Old 10-24-2010, 07:25 PM
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It certainly is ugly... and to be honest with you, I all about written this model off. BUT it is REALLY starting to grow on me. Lots of good reviews from my friends and VERY durable. One of my friends called it "the old pick up truck" of shotguns. I might give the 887 a spot in my rack one day.

Yes it has a lot of plastic, but it seems like it is in all the right places.
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Exclamation Stay away from the plastic ninja shotgun.

After doing a quick search, I stumbled across a few honest reviews.

http://randywakeman.com/ClunkerOf2009Award.htm

Remington 887 Nitro Mag & Remington 887 "Tactical".


This one is a bit more promising... but I'm still not convinced.

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887 shotguins are not safe and there is information on the net telling the tale.
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I bought my 870 when they first came out in 87, I'll bet I have well over 1,000 rds. through it and never had a malfunction.
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For half the money of the Remington 870 you can buy a Hawk or an NEF Pardner. The NEF Pardner sells for $169. These are both clones of the Remington 870 now that the patent has run out... and the NEF Pardner is 100% made with better quality components and craftsmanship. (I've heard the same about the Hawk but I haven't been able to verify it first hand.)

So basically if you want the Remington 870 you can get it for half the price ... and a better gun... by buying the Pardner.

If you want to spend in the $350 price range... the Benelli Nova is a much better shotgun than the Remington 870 or the Mossberg 500... so if you are going to pay the higher price... why not get the better gun.

If you are determined to buy a Remington 870... consider buying used. The quality of the guns made 10 years ago is better than what Remington is putting out today. Again ... you can get a better gun by paying less.
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For half the money of the Remington 870 you can buy a Hawk or an NEF Pardner. The NEF Pardner sells for $169. These are both clones of the Remington 870 now that the patent has run out... and the NEF Pardner is 100% made with better quality components and craftsmanship. (I've heard the same about the Hawk but I haven't been able to verify it first hand.)

So basically if you want the Remington 870 you can get it for half the price ... and a better gun... by buying the Pardner.

If you want to spend in the $350 price range... the Benelli Nova is a much better shotgun than the Remington 870 or the Mossberg 500... so if you are going to pay the higher price... why not get the better gun.

If you are determined to buy a Remington 870... consider buying used. The quality of the guns made 10 years ago is better than what Remington is putting out today. Again ... you can get a better gun by paying less.
I have a 870wingmaster magnum in 12 gauge, I bought new in 1978. I have killed hundreds of ducks and geese in subzero temperatures, over 50 turkeys, and many doves, rabbits, and quail with. Never a misfire, never a problem. You may buy as good as pump a shotgun, but not one better and not for the price I gave in '78.
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I would also go with the 870, very versatile, definitely the workingman's shotgun. If you just want a home defense one, some gunstores seem to have lots of the older police models, short barrel, maybe rifle sights, and they usually sell for $150-250, but some are only chambered for 2-3/4" shells, if you want to hunt with it, you might want one that can also fire 3" shells. Not an expert on the 887, but it looks plastiky and gimmicky to me, plus, why not use the time proven model?
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887 suffers from extraction issues related to the bolt. If I am right, the 887 cna handle 3.5" shells, where the 870 express can only handle 3" shells. 3.5" shells do have some merit in duck hunting any maybe to some extent turkey hunting. I successfuly hunt turkey with just 2 3/4" shells out of a 12 gauge.

If pursuing a remington that fires 3.5" shells take a look into the 870 super magnum. That ones does not have the 887 issues.

The 870 was produced for a long time. I know they were being made in the early 60's, not sure about the 50's though. The "87" part is the 11-87. It was a modified version of the 1100 that could fire a variety of shotgun shells both light and magnum powered. That was introduced in 1987. Another good shotgun. I use that one for trap and bird shooting specifically. Very reliable, but a bit heavy, which makes it good for trap shooting for me. Low recoil and a nice steady swing.
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887 shotguins are not safe and there is information on the net telling the tale.
how are they not safe..i have had my 887 for five years now and have cycled soooo many shells threw it..I LOVE IT
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the 870 and the 887 is the same gun...except the 887 external body is made so it cant rust hence the plastic...i love my 887 to pieces and im not getting a new shotgun until it proves that it cant get the job done... ive had it for 5 years and have never had any problems with it...my buddies gave me crap because it was made of plastic..but the joke was on them when a flock of ducks come in and their guns jam while i unload my gun and take half my limit of ducks...if anyone has questions about the 887 id be happy to answer them
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I would go with a Benelli Nova over those two. But out of those two a 10+ year old 870 would get my vote. The older ones are tough as nails and don't suffer the same quality issues as the newer ones. Can't go wrong with a Mossberg 500 either.
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I would go with a Benelli Nova over those two. But out of those two a 10+ year old 870 would get my vote. The older ones are tough as nails and don't suffer the same quality issues as the newer ones. Can't go wrong with a Mossberg 500 either.
i picked my remmington over a benelli and mossberg
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i picked my remmington over a benelli and mossberg
And what's your point exactly? I was just stating what I would go with. I'm not saying any of them are inferior to one another.
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I love my 887. Fired around 400-500 rds so far of every kind of ammo, from 7.5 shot to slugs with not a problem. I have read some of the bad reviews about the extractor but that was a few out of thousands, mainly the first ones.
One thing I really like about it is the Hi Viz sights, with my older eyes they really help a lot.
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And what's your point exactly? I was just stating what I would go with. I'm not saying any of them are inferior to one another.
I was told by a gunsmith to stay away from mossberg
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I was told by a gunsmith to stay away from mossberg
I personally would stay away from the gunsmith as he's probably full of ****. And I'd like to think the majority here would agree with me that Mossbergs are rock solid shotguns that'll go through anything.
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I personally would stay away from the gunsmith as he's probably full of ****. And I'd like to think the majority here would agree with me that Mossbergs are rock solid shotguns that'll go through anything.
Well he said he gets more mossbergs in the shop then anything else
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