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Old 10-21-2010, 07:30 PM
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870 forearm rail removal.
trying to remove the metal rail/slide off my 870 express to install a hogue unit..is there a special tool needed?, its impossible so far, we are thinking of fabricating a tool for this purpose..is it left or right thread, etc..any help is greatly appreciated.
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870 forearm rail removal.
trying to remove the metal rail/slide off my 870 express to install a hogue unit..is there a special tool needed?, its impossible so far, we are thinking of fabricating a tool for this purpose..is it left or right thread, etc..any help is greatly appreciated.
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If you look at the front end of the forestock (opposite of the rails) you will see a small plastic insert with two noches. That is holding the whole metal tube and rail in the fore-end. Be careful though not to force it to much since it is plastic on the 870 express.

Here is a diagram. The part you need to remove first is #29. Hope that helps! (sorry if you already knew this part and still can't get it off. I don't know how much you know about shotguns so I start from the begining.)


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Vic's right. It's part #29 (action tube nut). It just unscrews (lefty loosy). You don't need any special tools. Just use part #55 or #56 in the slots on the nut to turn it. If you already did take the nut off then you just need to pull harder. Sometimes they're on there tight.

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thx for the reply,
we have used screwdrivers, washers with channel locks, wd40, a spoon..lol,,etc.this thing is dug in like a Florida tick..going to try and fabicate a tool this weekend? may give remington a call on friday.
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Try this... http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1..._FOREND_WRENCH
or this...http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...sting-_-723227

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Remington sell a spanner wrench to take off the forend or take it to your local gun shop, they should be able to help you.
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If you wanted to fabricate a tool, I would probably start with a piece of copper tubing (gauge depending on the gauge of your shotgun. Maybe about 7-8 inches in length. But the longer the length the more leverage it puts out. Then use a file to create the correct teeth into one end of the pipe to fit into those grooves in the nut. You can attach a pair of vice grips or use those channel locks to then turn the end of the pipe. That should act like the fore-end nut wrench that blackwolf911 linked above.

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When I got my 870, it was in pretty bad shape and this is one of the problems I was faced with. What I did was place a flathead screwdriver into the slot, hold it at an angle, then began tapping it with a hammer. Eventually, it broke loose and I was able to remove it.
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I am a Remington trained Field Armorer for the 870...I HIGHLY recommend using the correct wrench for removing, and replacing, the nut. You can easily fabricate an acceptable substitute, but the Baker wrench ( http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=723227) is only about $20. The threads on the tube and nut are very fine and very easy to strip or cross-thread. Do not use a screwdriver. Yes, I know, you can use lesser tools for this task, but you will eventually end up replacing the tube and nut (you could use a revolver as a hammer but: why?)

Other tips to follow when removing/replacing: leave the action tube on the weapon, slide to the rear to lock the rails in the receiver (this will prevent them from twisting and bending.) Having the wrench slide over the magazine tube also acts as a guide and increases stabilization. It's normal "right-tighty, lefty-loosy" after that. When putting it back together, start your thread slowly in a reverse direction (leftward/counter-clockwise) until you feel/hear the thread ends set. Then you can turn the wrench normally (rightward/clockwise) to re-thread. Don't over tighten...just the old, German "Goodentight."
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Those things can be a pain in the ass go get off.

I suggest bringing it to a gunsmith. Even with the correct tool you may bend it. The tube in the fore end itself is made of very, very thin metal and can bend easily.
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Those things can be a pain in the ass go get off.

I suggest bringing it to a gunsmith. Even with the correct tool you may bend it. The tube in the fore end itself is made of very, very thin metal and can bend easily.
Disassembled correctly, it will not bend. Proper disassembly and re-asseembly is with the tube installed on on the weapon, over the magazine tube, with the action rails fully to the rear (inside the receiver.)
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thx to all that replyed, we got it off,
waiting on a new hogue 12" LOP Kit/set up and will use advise to install!
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