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Old 10-21-2010, 12:02 AM
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I would like to have a safe room for my family for many reasons. Mainly for a home invasion threat as we have been burglarized before while we were sleeping. I have listed out my idea below and would like some feedback on the pros and cons as well as any other ideas you may have. Thanks!

Attic Safe Room

Attic Safe Room Purpose
Secure retreat location for family or wife / 2 children guests during home invasion (not bullet proof)
Supply location for Survival Supplies
Unknown Location to secure documents / valuables incase of burglary or home invasion
Location for children to go if home alone and feel threatened (when they reach an age of understanding and responsibility)

Current State of Home / Attic
Home is 3 stories slab (no basement)
Attic is on 3rd floor
Has traditional pull down stair attic access
Has 3 half size attic doors in 3 different rooms
Attic Safe Room entry would be through half size door inside closet
Current have Foil Radiant Barrier and Insulation
Measured space to inhabit - need to measure

Attic Safe Room Potential Capabilities / Contents
Lockable from inside
Audible alarm on door (armed from inside room)
Wired Lighting / Flashlight / Battery Powered Lantern
Dry Food / Can Goods / Can Opener / Paper Products
Water / Other Drinks
Communication / Prepaid Cell Phone / Charger
Electrical Power Receptacle / Batteries
Platform to stand / lay down on
Sleeping Bags / Blanket
Battery Operated Fan
Seating
Defense - Shotgun / Pistol / Baseball Bat
First Aid Kit / Air Masks /
Safe - Secure Documents / Valuables

Positive Reasons to use Attic as Safe Room
Low building costs
Unknown to potential threats
Ability to create path to walk to other attic door entries, multiple entries / exits

Negative Reasons to use Attic as Safe Room
Heat during summer
Cold during winter
Dust
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You will need to camoflage the entrances so they can't be seen.

Place a battery lantern up there at night and go outside to see how much light leaks out. You will have to get rid of that or your room will be discovered.

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NEGATIVE on the attic , it could become your coffin ! is there a way to escape to the outside if needed ?
you said 3 story house , thats a big house , were dose every one sleep ? is it possible
to have every one sleep on the 3rd floor ? or you and wife sleep on 2nd floor and kids on 3rd floor ? if you can keep the family together then you can protect them better .

if you all can sleep on the 2nd and 3rd floors then you can install a steel door to block off the 2nd and 3rd floors from the rest of the house ! that way you all will become
separated from the threat if you have any more invaders !! and dont forget you will have an escape through one of the windows , rope ladders work as there are other
types that can be employed !! you also will have more room for your storage supplies .
and if you have to stay in there a long time you wont have to worry about the temperatures in the attic !!
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1.) Home Protection: A good gun and some training is probably cheaper. DO NOT GIVE GROUND TO INTRUDERS
2.) SHTF scenarios: houses fall DOWN or burn UP.
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I don't know how much $$$ you wish to spend. If something takes fire below, you are toasted because fire and smoke always progress upwards. I think your safe room should be also fire/ smokeproof and have an escape.
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I think it's a good plan...Work with what ya got I say. I read that your thinking about a quick and secure hiding spot..Not a fireproof safe-house. I have 2 unused 14x16rms up there with access like you, unused at the time. When I built my house I made the space available in-case I had more kids(didn't happen) or wanted a hobby rm.

1. Problems I've thought about is ease,speed and noise of access.

2. Fire-safes for valuables is a must but, great idea for hiding vals..not many burglars search the attic.

3. Attic vent/cover plate(I have 20'' gable vents) that can be kicked out and, having an escape rope prepared would be ideal.

4. It's not hard to close in around access area and, tie in existing climate control. Easy to add phone up there too
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Negative Reasons to use Attic as Safe Room
Heat during summer
Cold during winter
Dust
And those are some big negatives. Summer heat in an attic or an automobile is hard on many supplies ,from MREs ,canned goods to batteries and ammo.

Sounds like a death trap to me.
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Thanks for all the feedback! I'll be taking some pictures and post them so you will have a better idea of my set up with the attic doors. There is a vent in place that could be kicked out and a fire ladder deployed out to escape in case of a fire.

The idea of the safe room is a temporary location to go for an immediate threat. Better to have something than nothing at all. In the case of being alone with out the family I would more than likely not even consider this idea. Worse case I could kick then the ceiling of the room below the room and drop down to escape.
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One more problem that you would want to address... have someone go up in your attic and take a few steps... it's hard to hide that noise when people are in the room below you. It would take some work to get the attic floor so that it wouldn't creak and groan as you moved about.
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no need to ask just watch Panic Room
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sound like your determined to use your attic !!
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Sounds like a trap
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Steel doors and multiple boltlocks on all access doors to the outside seem like a much safer bet.

Windows should have locks on them and custom metal 'curtains' like some storefronts have. house should lock down at night or whenever the wifey and kids are home but the father isn't.

get a big dog and post signs that you have guns and dogs and home invasion will no longer be a problem.

People can always talk about 'what if'... but in life you play the percentages.

a 'safe room' shouldnt even be talked about unless it is steel lined and bulletproof.

A Marine Corps flag prominently displayed will also do the trick. Even the vatos don't @@@@ with the best.
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I say its a good plan but you need a way out through the roof and to the ground and you need to be able to get everyone you would take there out before fire could burn through the beams holding up your roof.

I think the rule should always be have a way out.
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It's dangerous. Once you go UP then you're stuck. Fire is a huge danger. If possible try a cellar instead, that would be much safer.
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Running up stairs is hard work even for healthy adults. You also have to turn your back
to have any speed at all. A central location with bulletproof walls, floor, and ceiling is
what I'd consider--something with outside access.
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no need for the survival crap.. all you would need after building it is a gun, a cell phone, a way to lock it and a axe to GET THE HECK OUT if you needed!! once you call the poice you wont need food/supplies you will need a prayer that the invader will A. not notice B. not care that you are up there ( just take you stuff and run) C. hope he doesnt try to burn your house down with you and your family locked inside the attic...
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...What police ?
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I'd make sure there's a way to get out and supplies (food, water, bathroom considerations) in there to stay for a certain amount of times. I think it'd also be really important to work on some type of noise dampening feature, so you can't be heard walking around up there. And protection, obviously.
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Since your absolutely set on doing it. I would say roof access with a drop down ladder at the very least, a zip line maybe.
Lots good suggestions here. I like the steel door between floors.
Got to have a way out.
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