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Old 09-20-2010, 05:59 AM
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I put this question to the forum. What is the best, most reliable, accurate and well made 17HMR on the market today? I plan on hunting coyote with it on state land this comming winter while scouting for big Bucks. A good friend and archery buddie wants to Hunt deer in CT and the only place right now the two of us can hunt together is state land. So I told him if you are willing to help me put in the time and effort, we can hunt wild dogs this winter while scouting for deer on a piece of state land near my house.

Anywho a 17HMR is the best rimfire in my opinion. On state land nothing bigger than 22 caliber or no shot bigger than #2 in a shotgun. 25yards an in the shotgun makes more sense. I saw a lot of coyote last winter but they were all 50 to 75 yards out. with propper shot placement the 17 will do the trick.

So forum please give me your worldly gun wisdom on the 17 HMR. Thanx-Chinagreen
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I have a Contender(not an Encore)in .17 but I cannot recommend it as Contender triggers are no longer adjustable. And the trigger on mine is about 10 lbs and creepy. I just about only shoot a 28 ga. shotgun barrel on the Contender frame now. But I have a Ruger 77/17 that I had to get some trigger work done on(about 18 bucks) and I shot a 3 shot group on a windless day about 5 years ago that measured 0.26 inch in the top of a milk jug. I took the same rifle that squirrel season and killed a limit of 10 with nine head shots and one through the chest(he sat on a limb facing me eating a hickory nut at about 6 paces. With a 4x14 scope cranked to 4x I pulled the trigger as soon as I saw white hair behind the crosshairs) One of the shots was at 96 of my paces. I can't say enough good things about Ruger guns. But I also here Savage makes a good .17HMR and if it has the accutrigger on it, it will be a good shooter I'll bet.boot
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I love Ruger. Pretty much everything but their center-fire pistols are awesome. The rifles and .22 pistols tend to have heavy triggers. Luckily, because Ruger is so popular, many companies can do fairly inexpensive trigger jobs. I'm not sure, but I believe that the Ruger .17 have the rotary magazine which is a great design feature.
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Is that Ruger a semiauto or a bolt action? What is the retail on them? I do have an Encore prohunter I suppose I could always get a .17 barrel for it.
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I use the Savage Model 93 .17 hmr and its really nice. It does have the accutrigger, which is nice. Nuts-on accurate at 300 yards (havent tried to shoot it farther yet) and awesome effect-on-target with jackrabbits. (think splodey bunnies) I'm actually considering taking this rifle next time i go coyote calling, as i think it might actually have the power to do the job there.
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You're going to get many different opinions on what is best. I'll just say that I have a Marlin 917BS (Laminate stock/Stainless Bull Barrel) and and very happy with it. I will admit that I'm planning on replacing the trigger as it's a little heavy.
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Color me confused but why would you consider .17hmr if the state will let you use .22 caliber? I would go with a .223, 22-250 or a 220 swift. they will all out perform a .17hmr and you can reload so they are cheaper to shoot.
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IMHO I'd have to say the Savage but then a person can never have enough guns - go get one of each brand
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Pistol grip + Accutrigger !
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I have a Savage HM2 and am not really impressed, however there is only one model HM2 that they manufacture and several for the HMR. Hopefully some of their offerings for the HMR are better than the MK 2 Series.
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I also have the savage model 93 bolt action with a scope. I love it. I can shoot pop bottle cap size groups at 100 yards. I have had issues with Remington ammo spliting cases but no issues with federal ammo. I have taken fox, coyote, groundhog, squirrel, rabbit and one deer. I far from suggest a 17HMR for deer; however, I had a public nousions permit two years ago. I took a 100 yrd shot and dropped the deer right in his tracks. Perfect shot placement was the key.

17 HMR vs 22 Mag is a tough call. do your home work well on the bullistic differents before you buy. depending on what and were you hunt one might have an advantage to you.
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I'll say the T/C Encore. Love the platform. When I ordered my Encore from E. Arthur Brown I ordered it with a trigger job and I am quite pleased.
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Find yourself a bolt action, and work it until it is slick, and second nature to you to work the bolt as you bring your scope back on. Marlin makes a good one. I haven't looked at Savage's offering, but I hear it works pretty well also.
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Color me confused but why would you consider .17hmr if the state will let you use .22 caliber? I would go with a .223, 22-250 or a 220 swift. they will all out perform a .17hmr and you can reload so they are cheaper to shoot.
well, with the possible exception of the .223, the .17 hmr rounds are going to be cheaper, despite reloading. and not everyone is set up to reload, you know.

Another reason i use 17 hmr is because it has negligible recoil. Not that its an issue for me, i shoot bigger calibers all the time, but when i'm varmint hunting i like to be able to hit the second shot right away.

Thirdly, most .17hmr rounds, upon entering an animal, will leave a TINY entrance wound, then fragment spectacularly and fail to leave an exit wound. This is useful if you intend to save the pelt.
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Thirdly, most .17hmr rounds, upon entering an animal, will leave a TINY entrance wound, then fragment spectacularly and fail to leave an exit wound. This is useful if you intend to save the pelt.
Better check that out. I haven't shot any coyote, but it blows right through squirrels and rabbits more like a .22 wmr.
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Better check that out. I haven't shot any coyote, but it blows right through squirrels and rabbits more like a .22 wmr.
thats true hotsauce, i meant that more in reference to things like coyotes and sometimes foxes. I wouldnt save the pelts from squirrels and rabbits
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A lot of states have laws that say public hunting land only lets you use Rim Fire. Unless Deer, Turkey, Bird hunting. So 22-250, 223, 222 swift, 22 hornet and others is all off the list.

Leaving 22LR 22Mag 17 HMR

Having all 3 of these I will say the following.

22 mag does better in the wind and holds more kinect energy then the 17 out to say 150 yrds.

The 17 is moving at a concidiable more amount of FPS and might have a futher reach then the 22 mag do to that reason.

I guess if I could only keep one of them it would be the 22 Mag. I like the bigger projectile. But my 17 HMR is awesome too.
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I have the savage 17 hmr and have to say it gets the job done nicely. gotta love that accutrigger!
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Is that Ruger a semiauto or a bolt action? What is the retail on them? I do have an Encore prohunter I suppose I could always get a .17 barrel for it.
All Ruger guns with the model 77 prefix are bolt actions I believe. When I got mine they were between 200-300 bucks. I think now they are between 500-600. I love the Encore/Contender format. A new 17HMR barrel would be the cheapest way to go. Accuracy will not suffer as it does not take a bolt to stabilize the head of rimfire ammo. And if the Encore has a good trigger I would prefer it to a bolt.
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