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Old 09-16-2010, 08:56 PM
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I have gotten some great gun advice on this forum and would like to try again. I went through quite a few pages of old posts and did not find this specific topic, but did not go through every one. So I hope this is not a repeat question.

Anyway, the next gun I plan to purchase is a .357 Magnum revolver. I will probably keep it at home, but would like for it to be my CCW if necessary. I am looking for the best gun with regard to reliability, durability and features, not necessarily the cheapest gun. If there is one with less recoil than others, that would also be a plus. I assume that they all chamber .38 special ammo, but if they don't, that is also a feature I desire because I read there is less recoil.

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I have a rossi .38spl as my ccw five shot the 357 version is the same size if memory serves me correctly its big enough it fits my hands and small enough its concealable in almost whatever i wear i recomend getting a nemmisis pocket holster theyl set you back about 20 but are good pocket holsters
as far as the handling of the revolver it has an exposed hammer double or single action about 5lb pull da and goes down to about 2 if you use it single action and for being a 2 inch barrel its very accurate i can keep softball sized groups at 25m
cost me about $300


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There are a lot that will get the job done...but as far as "best" goes, I always check into Ruger and Smith & Wesson when it comes to revolvers.
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Smith and Wesson model 19.
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Take a good look at the Ruger GP-100, with a 4 inch barrel. It is not the most expensive, but in my opinion, it is one of the better made revolvers on the market. You can find prettier and you can find cheaper, but you will be hard pressed to find better, in my opinion. Best of luck to you in your search. Happy Shooting.
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I own and regularly use several L frame S&W's but I have to admit the Ruger GP-100 is about the best. Basically unchanged since it came out twenty some years ago. Tough guns.

My beef with them is the trigger. Rough. Although they are not known for it, Wilson Combat does a beautiful trigger job on the Ruger. Moon clip conversion is a wise decision. It will also allow speedloaders and individual rounds. MagnaPort is another good house of gun plumbers.

For considerably reduced recoil, you might look at old S&W Model 27/28 or the newer 8 shot 627's that come in 2 5/8", 4" and 5". These are N frame guns that are bigger and heavier. Like the Ruger, they can handle almost anything you can stuff in a casing. 8 shots of .357 is a size efficient handgun.
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I'd look at a Ruger..

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Sounds like you're going to carry so you have many choices to make. S&W and Ruger are top quality and have a lot of models. 357 does shoot 38 Spl, same diameter in a shorter case.
You'll want to stay with a 4" or shorter barrel. Porting the barrel can help reduce recoil but the tradeoff is noise and night vision loss. For any of the short distance belly guns XS sights makes nice big front sights to easily pick up the circle and center mass it.
Alloy, polymer, and titanium frames are lighter to carry around but good ole steel keeps recoil down. I doubt you would ever shoot out the barrel on any of these anyway, they can take a lot of rounds.
Look for lifetime warranties and good customer service. There are a lot of forums online you can read all about the good, the bad and the ugly gun companies.
Most new revolvers nowadays will set you back from $299 to over $1,000 depending. Shop the gun shows, gun stores and anywhere they sell them. I found a fantastic 4" S&W 681 for $250, so deals are out there. 47/48 shots in a tactical match (strong, weak, two-handed) went into the A zone. That was after some additional work on it. But shoot it for awhile first to determine how you want to customize it.
Just my opinion!
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s and w 686 4 inch stainless
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Check out the Ruger SP-101. It's built like a tank.
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For concealed carry, there are many factors to consider in addition to the make and model of the revolver. Your body type, wardrobe preferences, activities will affect the suitability of the weapon. Ruger revolvers are reliable as a framing hammer. And about as easy for some people to conceal. The Taurus 605 ported snub nose revolver is dependable, the porting provides for reduced recoil and is easier to conceal. Truthfully, there just aren't that many junk revolvers out there anymore. Like a barroom, there will always be the person who declares Dodges are junk and Chevrolet is the only way......sometimes you have to consider the source. They all can develop mechanical problems. Unless you blow it up, most can be fixed. Like a car. Take care of them, try not to abuse them, you can get some mileage out of them. Some folks will tell you that if you buy a Ford, the wheels will all fall off and the engine will blow up. Within two days. They've seen it a hundred times. You'll have the same sifting of the wheat from the chafe with firearms. None of the revolvers on the market today are known to blow up in your hand. You need to determine how the revolver frame size and barrel length will affect the purpose. If the "best" revolver does not fit your hand, nor can you hit anything with it, it would be of little value to you if it were free.
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In my opinion it would be this, but they don’t make them anymore…

Colt, King Cobra…

SOMEDAY I will get another one... I miss this revolver..!
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You should get a .358, it is .001 better.
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This website does not indicate that the S & W 686 shoots .38 special ammo like the S & W 60 does:

http://www.e-gun.net/body.asp?gun=Re...oD=.357+Magnum

Am I correct that shooting .38 special ammo decreases the recoil significantly and that it is an advantage to have a .357 magnum that shoots both types of ammo?
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1+ on the Ruger GP100 4" barrel. It is IMHO the finest DA revolver you can get. Perfect woods gun, at least in my neck -o- the timber.
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Ruger GP 100 seems to be leading the pack. Any particular features or accessories you all recommend? Do you prefer .357 or .38 special ammo? Probably going to buy one at Cabelas or Bass Pro Shop tomorrow. I should probably wait for a deal, but thought I would buy one while my cash is still worth something.
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Am I correct that shooting .38 special ammo decreases the recoil significantly and that it is an advantage to have a .357 magnum that shoots both types of ammo?
You are correct. A .357 can shoot .38 as well.

I like Rugers. If you want to conceal carry... I'd look at the SP101 with a 3" barrel. On the heavy side, but that helps recoil and with the 3" barrel it still has some outdoor potential.
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Ruger GP 100 seems to be leading the pack. Any particular features or accessories you all recommend? Do you prefer .357 or .38 special ammo? Probably going to buy one at Cabelas or Bass Pro Shop tomorrow. I should probably wait for a deal, but thought I would buy one while my cash is still worth something.
A holster, speed loaders, ammo (.38 for practice and indoor defense, .357 for outdoor and critters), and cleaning supplies. You may decide to change grips or sights eventually, but it's a great gun as is. I'd disassemble and polish up the forcing cone and any machine marks when you get it. A lot of people change springs to lighten the trigger. I'm partial to it the way it is. Eats everything and never have to worry about light strikes.

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For Concealed carry the Ruger SP101 would be a good choice as would any of the S&W model 60's, of course you will be limited to five rounds, with either one.

Stepping up in size to the GP 100 and K/L frame S&W will give you six rounds (seven in the 686 Plus) and a bit more weight, heavier to pack, harder to conceal, yet the extra weight of the larger revolver will dampen some of the recoil.

Stepping up again you get into the large frame revolvers, Like the Ruger Redhawk (yes! Ruger made a Redhawk .357 mag) and the Smith and wesson N frame revolvers particularly the model 27 and 28. These are the cadillacs of the .357's, big heavy revolvers that tame the stoutest recoil and heavy magnum loadings.

I like the mid sized revolvers, I don't carry concealed so size and weight are not big issues for me.

The GP100 is a good value and the newer ones have hogue grips. Ruger finally did something to improve the trigger pull on the GP's. They use to have an atrocious trigger pull which is now reasonable, new out of the box.

The S&W L frames are sweet, the price reflect that too...I really like the 686 Plus. Seven shots and they come in 3" and 4" barrel lengths. Got to say the original 686's are just as nice one less round though.
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The 686 seems like a very high quality .357, but does not appear to shoot .38 special and is probably too large to serve as a CCW if I desire.

SP 101 seems like a good CCW, but the short barrel probably sacrifices accuracy and the smaller size likely means more recoil.

GP 100 sounds like a happy medium.

I will handle all of them tomorrow and see how they feel. I wish that I could shoot them all like everyone recommends, but it is not very practical. The firing ranges are so crowded with hunters and I do not even know if my local ranges rent guns.

Thank you all for the great advice. I will check in the morning for any other suggestions.
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