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Old 08-10-2010, 04:09 AM
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I just picked up a stainless 10/22. Its been 25 years or more since I owned a 10/22.... Or any 22 for that fact Back in the day CCI Stingers were the cats meow but today?
Just curious what the hardest hitting 22LR round on the block is these days?
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Really simple, read the ballistic tables from the makers and the one with the highest energy is the hardest hitting.

Which means diddly squat as it could be the most inaccurate round available for your rifle...Buy a box of each of the different LR ammo out there where you live and shoot two 5 shot targets from each box...Whichever groups the smallest is the one that is best for your rifle...Go out and buy a couple of 500 round bricks of the same ammo lot and you'll be good for awhile and keep the others for when you have another rifle to sight in.
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Really simple, read the ballistic tables from the makers and the one with the highest energy is the hardest hitting.

Which means diddly squat as it could be the most inaccurate round available for your rifle...Buy a box of each of the different LR ammo out there where you live and shoot two 5 shot targets from each box...Whichever groups the smallest is the one that is best for your rifle...Go out and buy a couple of 500 round bricks of the same ammo lot and you'll be good for awhile and keep the others for when you have another rifle to sight in.
While I agree with you and will use what shoots the best.... It was not the question. I guess I can comb the various ballistic charts of different manufacturers but I thought I would just ask. Seems simple enough?
I thought there might have been a new super 22LR that was released at some point and I was just curious...
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CCI Velocitors have a 40 grain bullet that travel around 1400 fps. Slightly slower than the Stingers, but with a heavier bullet. IIRC, the Aguila Interceptors are another hypervelocity 40 grain round. Hope this helps.
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There are so many out there and most companies have more then one version...It's very subjective as to what's hardest hitting...Does a faster, lighter 37 gr bullet have more actual energy (not velocity) then a heavier 40 gr slower bullet, not perceived but actual and the only way to get that is by checking all the different makers and comparing...Winchester, Aguilla, Remington, CCI, Eley, Sellier & Bellot, Federal, RWS, SK, Fiocchi etc.

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The Aguilla Interceptor followed closely by the CCI Velocitor are the most powerful 40g .22LR rounds available. The Aguilla SSS Subsonics are the most powerful sub sonics for use with a suppressor since it uses a 60g bullet at 850 fps. It does require a 1X9 twist rate barrel to stabilize correctly though.
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Actually, if you don't stabalize the the SSS rounds they tumble and become the hardest hitting by far.

60gr hitting something broadside is what they were originally designed to do (well one of the benefits at least). Short range hits to the head in South American jungles.
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I agree. The Aguila SSS 60 gr .22's are the hardest hitting .22's out there. Out of my 10/22 they do about 890fps. And at 25 yards, they group nicely, but they always keyhole.
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In .22rf energy/velocity/bullet weight are so similar I do not pay attention to them. If I want power I go to a bigger gun.

My personal #1 priority with my 10/22 is reliability, #2 is accuracy.

That particular gun is a pain to clear a jam. It is also notoriously inaccurate out of the box. I have found that simply finding the right ammo will cut 10/22 groups in half, sometimes more.

I will gladly trade 1 grain bullet weight and 75fps velocity for hitting the target.

I have found that the best trade off of all aspects, including price, are CCI Minimag hollowpoints. An extra feature is they are available at Wally-world.

That is just me and my gun. Your rifle may want something entirely different or it may shoot anything you put into it well.
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I had a Stainless 10-22. It shot wonderfully til' I started running Stingers through it. After I did, it would no longer shot anything good so I traded it.
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The hardest hitting rounds for varmints are going to be some of the least effective on larger critters. Or at least that was the case with Stingers. They lacked the penetration to be useful for much more than varmint hunting. They sure did a good job on Texas jackrabbits though.

Personally, I've always liked the CCI dimple points. I don't know if they even make them anymore. But they would expand, just not immediately. This gave them about the best combination of expansion and penetration that you can expect from such a small bullet travelling at a relatively low velocity.
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It kind of depends on what you are shooting. Stingers have more muzzle energy than Velocitors, but Velocitors have more at 25 yards. Stingers expand more quickly and are impressive on small varmints. Velocitors penetrate better on larger animals and retain momentum if you are shooting shilloutes.

On the other hand, you may find you are more effective taking head shots with more accurate standard velocity ammo at longer ranges. When the supersonic rounds drop below 1125 ft/sec, accuracy tends to suffer.
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velocity squared x grains divided by 450240 = foot pounds of energy
so a 40 grain bullet moving at 1400 fps = 174 fpe
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I have a couple of 22s sighted in at 100 yds and can shoot a 4" group fairly easily with 10-22s. My squirrel hunter is a Ruger bolt. I store Stingers but use any brand to plink with. My preference is Winchester, Federal, and lastly Remington-but there is nothing wrong with it. We fired a cube(550 rds) recently and had two misfires with Remingtons. Stingers shoot 4" higher at 100 than standard rounds and that is what I zero with.
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Stingers and Yellow jackets never grouped worth poop out of mine CZ.

I have a 50 rd. box of the Velocitors that I've not even opened yet.

The Federal bulk pack 550 (36 gr. HP) are very accurate and what I shoot the most of but they fail to expand at all when shooting cats, coons, squirrels etc.

The white box Winchester stuff 36 gr.? is plenty accurate, although not as tight as the Federal, but it is my "go to" for hunting with the 10/22.
It's more a copper wash than a plate like the Federal and the HP is more pronounced and I believe the lead may be softer.


It gives DRAMATIC expansion on small game.

CCI mini-mag 40gr. for an all'rounder has proven itself also. Never any misfires, accurate, higher velocity than the other two I use.


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Winchester Supreme Xpediter 32gr HP seems to shoot flatter then CCI in my rifle and hits hard at 1600 FPS.
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Aguila Super Maximum is the most powerful factory .22lr round out there as far as I know. 30 gr bullet at 1750 fps. Devastating on varmints big and small.
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This site might help for purchase availability.
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Ive ordered from them twice and have had to call the CC company both times as they never delivered the goods.

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what version of the 10/22 did you purchase? they make the plain jane no frills with iron sights,there is a sporter model and there is a target model. how far do you plan on shooting this firearm? they all come into play. trigger pull,too tight or not smooth,probably not going to shoot as good as a nice 2 1/2 pound trigger . then you might want to think about ammo, if i want accuracy ( say head shot on a rabbit at 100 yards) Lapua,wolf performance .22 ammo is great, at 100 yards in my 10/22 with the lapua five shots 1 1/2 inch group = dead rabbit or squrill.
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I agree. The Aguila SSS 60 gr .22's are the hardest hitting .22's out there. Out of my 10/22 they do about 890fps. And at 25 yards, they group nicely, but they always keyhole.
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The Aguila Sub Sonic 60 grn penetrates like you wouldn't believe. MV supposedly is just sub, like 1050 fps. I set up pine boards along with hickory. No contest. Those 60 grn bullets plowed through 6 or 7 and were stopped by the hickory. The CCI would penetrate maybe 2 or 3. Not a real scientific test but if you wanted to take a critter larger than a bunny, I'd recommend trying these. Plus they are quite a bit quieter as per "the wife test." If all you had for self defense was a 22lr, I'd try these. Downside is that they won't cycle reliably in a 10/22. They must be popular as I've seen replacement barrels w ith faster twists designed just for these rounds.
As side note, I tested 9mm, 115 grn handload, Berry's plated @ 1050 fps on the boards. The Aquila out penetrated the 9mm.
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