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Old 08-01-2010, 10:53 AM
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If you could own only one BP revolver, and your choice were between a Ruger Old Army or a modern reproduction Remington 1858: which would you choose, and why?

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Old 08-01-2010, 01:55 PM
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I'm a purist, so I prefer the 1858 from that aspect only.

But realistically, the Ruger is far better built than any of the 1858 repros. It's common to have to replace parts now and then in the repros. The hand will wear out, A spring will break or fade occasionally, etc. That's not to knock the quality of the repros. The original guns had the same problems. The Ruger is a modern design and just keeps on working and working.
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I've had both and my choice is the Ruger hands down. I shoot the gun very well and it just feels right to me. That along with the reliability edge of the modern coil spring action makes it simply perfect for me.

I'm also a huge Ruger Single Action fan, so it just fits.
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Ruger, the pistol is a modern Ruger tough design, but more importantly is Rugers warranty, I bought mine at a pawnshop for cheap, it didnt fire on every chamber, I sent it to Ruger they replaced the cylinder, fixed a couple of other things, polished the hammer channel, and repaired the strut. For FREE ! The warranty is liftime! The company is here, and not in Italy! I was so impressed I went out and bought another one, new in the box 7.5in SS I am saving that one as a investment.
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Remington gets my vote.
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I agree with MikeK on this...If you're in a purist CAS event the Remington, if not then the Ruger hands down.
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The Remington is prone to breakage, the Ruger isn't.

That's enough reason for me.

I've worked several Old Army's over including shortening several to short barrel "Avenging Angel" pieces. While not true to the purist, if I had to get one again, it'd be the Ruger.
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Never had a ROA, one day one may change my mind, until then I will stick with my Uberti 1861s
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Extra cyls are just llike speed loaders, though I have both the "58" you can speed load the ruger you can't. just my 2

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The Rugers are nice, but I prefer the Remington. I own probably ten of them. They fit me better than any other handgun and I'm a purist.
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I would get the Ruger.
Brownells used to offer a replacement cylinder
that allowed you to shoot regular ammo through
them.
BUT it wasnt cheap...
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Remington, I started out with BP revolvers many years ago, and used them for my first CAS matches, (a Pietta Remington .44 and a old Lyman 1851 Navy with the square back trigger guard) If I did my part the guns would do theirs.

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I have had both, I am somewhat of a purist when it comes to Hunting with Muzzleloaders but in this case I will have to go with the ROA. Excellent all around revolver and can be converetd to centerfire by the cylinder kit to fire .45 LC. ( I have not done that yet because I have 2 vaqueros in .45LC already). Just my 2 cents.

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remington gets my vote rugers oa very nice indeed hard to find as inexspensive compared to the 1858's, 1858's can be had in .36 cal, .44 btw you can also get tayor clylinders 4 the 1858 to fire 45 long colt. but why bother conicals or roundballs shoot so well outta em n soft lead projectile desstroys flesh fast, i killed coyotes deer yes deer with .451 dia. lead roud balls n 30grs of 777 at 30 yards, rabbits i popped off in exsest of 50yrds not to take anything away from roa just sadly 1858 are plentifull n roa arenot anymore
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I'm a purist, so I prefer the 1858 from that aspect only.

But realistically, the Ruger is far better built than any of the 1858 repros. It's common to have to replace parts now and then in the repros. The hand will wear out, A spring will break or fade occasionally, etc. That's not to knock the quality of the repros. The original guns had the same problems. The Ruger is a modern design and just keeps on working and working.
This pretty much sums it up. Exactly what I was going to say. With that being said, even though the Ruger IS stronger, the Remington is NOT a weak revolver. Just a thought to keep in mind.
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The Remington is prone to breakage, the Ruger isn't.

That's enough reason for me.
Where did you ever get the idea that the Remington is prone to breakage? I have owned several in .36 caliber and .44 caliber and this has not been my experience. If you have some first hand knowledge of this please share it.

Of course everybody pretty much knows that the Ruger is much more solid built, but I've never heard anyone say that the Remington was prone to breakage.

I personally like the looks of the Remington, and for a trail side arm it is much lighter in weight than the Ruger. Both are good guns and both have their place.
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I've had both and my choice is the Ruger hands down. I shoot the gun very well and it just feels right to me. That along with the reliability edge of the modern coil spring action makes it simply perfect for me.

I'm also a huge Ruger Single Action fan, so it just fits.
Really though I didn't kow , Did you know they make a long colt cylinder, two different companies . roughly $200 any way you go .
I want to give that one a go .
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ROA will take charges I was too nervous to try in Piettas. And you can get spare cylinders, or Kirst/R&D cylinders in 45LC & 45 ACP. If its going to be my one and only it'll be the ROA.
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ROA will take charges I was too nervous to try in Piettas. And you can get spare cylinders, or Kirst/R&D cylinders in 45LC & 45 ACP. If its going to be my one and only it'll be the ROA.
The ROA can be loaded (if memory serves me correctly) to nearly Walker Colt power levels, if you need it to. If I were going to use a cap and ball for hunting, the ROA would be it. For me, if I need that kind of power I'd go to a Ruger Vaquero or Super Blackhawk. No sense in trying to turn a cap and ball into a magnum.

For me, since I don't hunt with a cap and ball the Remington is a fine choice. As I've said before, the Ruger is a more durable and powerful weapon. But that doesn't mean that the Remington is not durable or powerful in itself. It all depends on what your use for it is. If I need that kind of power level I'll go with a Blackhawk or Super Blackhawk.

What can you do with a ROA that you can't do with a Remington? Not really much. Even as a hunting sidearm you are somewhat limited with a ROA, let alone the Remington.

It all boils down to personal choice. I know a lot of guys that have chosen the ROA and have no regrets. The same can be said for the Remington. Whatever floats your boat.
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Own a CVA .44 Navy and a ROA (SS/adjustable sights). Both are good, but in the end the ROA gets the nod.

-Also have a .36 Colt (a real Colt) but I do not shoot that.
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