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Old 07-29-2010, 01:51 AM
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I am becoming more and more worried about the way the world is heading and im trying to decide on the best firearms to have at the ready,I currently own a
Rem 700 SPS varmint .243 heavy barrel,with a 8.5-25x50 sightmark scope
Rem 870 security 7 shot pump with Knoxx spec ops stock 18" barrel
and have just purchased an SKS-M with 2 ,7 shot ak mags ,which is the highest cap i can have with my licence .My question is do you think i should sell my .243 bolt gun and purchase a nice NHM-90 AK 7.62x39,with a stack of ammo ,which will also be used in my SKS-M,Or should i keep the bolt gun for those long shots,Which at the mo i use for varminting,I would really appreciate everyones opinion on this ,Cheers guys & gals
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Keep the bolt action for any "precision" work that you might have to do in the future,everybody should have at least one in my opinion!
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A bolt action gun should always be standard, because of hunting.

Sure you can also use your 870 or your SKS/AK for hunting, but range is somehow limited.
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A bolt action gun should always be standard, because of hunting.

Sure you can also use your 870 or your SKS/AK for hunting, but range is somehow limited.

Easily dealing with SKS accuracy issues
http://www.earlymaturity.com/SKS.html

Gabe Suarez on making the AK 47 work out to 500 yards & beyond
http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?t=33277
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I am becoming more and more worried about the way the world is heading and im trying to decide on the best firearms to have at the ready,I currently own a
Rem 700 SPS varmint .243 heavy barrel,with a 8.5-25x50 sightmark scope
Rem 870 security 7 shot pump with Knoxx spec ops stock 18" barrel
and have just purchased an SKS-M with 2 ,7 shot ak mags ,which is the highest cap i can have with my licence .My question is do you think i should sell my .243 bolt gun and purchase a nice NHM-90 AK 7.62x39,with a stack of ammo ,which will also be used in my SKS-M,Or should i keep the bolt gun for those long shots,Which at the mo i use for varminting,I would really appreciate everyones opinion on this ,Cheers guys & gals

i dont know your laws in your country but the number one weapon i would get or have would be a pistol it is the one weapon that is a personel defense weapon that you can take with you EVERYWHERE you go.and i would have one with at least 15 shots

if you cant have a pistol i would let your terrain dictate what you need.get what you need NOW and get what you want later. if you live in a terrain that is open and you have ALOT of long range shots then yes you should focuse on a long range weapons. if your terrain is more of dense forrest then a short range weapon will serve you well like the NHM-90 (which is a VERY good choice in AK'S)but an SKS would do just fine.

YOU need to figure out what is best in your situation and what is the best tools for YOUR plan of action

if you plan on a bugout forget the shotguns the ammo take up WAY to much room in your backpack. they rock as home def

someone who has no idea of your terrain and enivironment cant tell you what is best for you.

if i had to choose i would want the AK (how much ammo is a stack? 1 brick or 20 bricks) ,BUT let terrain dictate what you need.what kind of range to you have for shooting varmints?
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Old 07-29-2010, 04:30 AM
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Keep the bolt gun.
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Keep the bolt action rifle and just add other rifles into your armory. Keep your additions simple so that they work with your present ammo options and fit into a possible replacement parts situation. For example, the best option for parts, so to speak, is a complete replacement rifle. That means that if you have an AK type rifle, you need to have a second AK rifle available in case the first one breaks. Simple program that has you keeping rifles of the same caliber around for emergencies.
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Thank you for your replies ,The pistol laws here a super tight and are very very difficult aquire ,And in regards to my area i have steep forest country and vast farm land so i guess bolt and short range are perfect,I guess im just trying to find a reason to by the new NHM-90 AK i have in my sight ,the guy is offering me a great price too $1350 with 2x 7shot mags ,but i just dont have the money right now ,so i was trying to talk myself into selling my .243 to buy the AK,I love semi auto's ,and our government is about to make it very hard to own semi's them thats why i want to get one now
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what happened to my reply?
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keep the bolt gun! Don't know what happened to my longer reply with more detail as to why.....
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I would be worried about caliber though. If 243 is common in your area then cool, if not... Well... You decide.

As it stands I would say bolt, mainly because if you can only have a 7 round mag, you lose a lot of semi-auto benefit. With only 7 rounds you had better pick your shots very very carefully (more so than if you have a 100 rd drum), which you already do with a bolt.
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I am becoming more and more worried about the way the world is heading and im trying to decide on the best firearms to have at the ready,I currently own a
Rem 700 SPS varmint .243 heavy barrel,with a 8.5-25x50 sightmark scope
Rem 870 security 7 shot pump with Knoxx spec ops stock 18" barrel
and have just purchased an SKS-M with 2 ,7 shot ak mags ,which is the highest cap i can have with my licence .My question is do you think i should sell my .243 bolt gun and purchase a nice NHM-90 AK 7.62x39,with a stack of ammo ,which will also be used in my SKS-M,Or should i keep the bolt gun for those long shots,Which at the mo i use for varminting,I would really appreciate everyones opinion on this ,Cheers guys & gals
Your bolt gun is an absolute must....seems you have the shotgun issue solved with a good choice....the MBR is strictly personal preference while my choice is the AR15 platform as a rifle I've been around and owned variants for almost 30 years....parts/accessories/ammo (.223/5.56x45) are all plentiful and would be one of the most plentiful rounds in a post SHTF scenario. 'Just my preference. It's most important to go with what you know bro! 'Hope this helps!
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I am becoming more and more worried about the way the world is heading and im trying to decide on the best firearms to have at the ready,I currently own a
Rem 700 SPS varmint .243 heavy barrel,with a 8.5-25x50 sightmark scope
Rem 870 security 7 shot pump with Knoxx spec ops stock 18" barrel
and have just purchased an SKS-M with 2 ,7 shot ak mags ,which is the highest cap i can have with my licence .My question is do you think i should sell my .243 bolt gun and purchase a nice NHM-90 AK 7.62x39,with a stack of ammo ,which will also be used in my SKS-M,Or should i keep the bolt gun for those long shots,Which at the mo i use for varminting,I would really appreciate everyones opinion on this ,Cheers guys & gals
Keep the bolt gun.

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Thank you for your replies ,The pistol laws here a super tight and are very very difficult aquire ,And in regards to my area i have steep forest country and vast farm land so i guess bolt and short range are perfect,I guess im just trying to find a reason to by the new NHM-90 AK i have in my sight ,the guy is offering me a great price too $1350 with 2x 7shot mags ,but i just dont have the money right now ,so i was trying to talk myself into selling my .243 to buy the AK,I love semi auto's ,and our government is about to make it very hard to own semi's them thats why i want to get one now
If you can acquire the bolt gun after the new restrictions come into effect then get the AK. You know you want it.
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Thanks again guys for the info but i am going to have to sell the bolt gun in order to pay for the NHM-90 7.62x39 ,which i need to get asap before the laws change ,Plus i just bought an SKS-M in 7.62x39 as well so am now sorted in the assault rifle department,Thing is i can replace my bolt gun whenever ,so for now its semi auto all the way ,1 last question should i get the NHM-90 AK or the Saiga AK ,The NHM has 7 round mags which also fit my sks-m but i hear saiga maybe a better product ,the NHM is $1350 and the Saiga is $2000 ,Any opinions would be great ,Cheers guys,BTW i can apply for a special licence that allows me to own and use 30rnd mags so thats definately on the cards in the future,its just that it would cost me $400 for a 30 rnd mag,Seriously, maybe i should just move to the states
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Seriously, maybe i should just move to the states
Jerry, this thread has me seriously concerned. Not being an experience world traveler, I have somehow always thought that New Zealand would be the best place in the world to go if things fell apart in the United States. I figured I would at least know most of the language (except for local idiom) and it had a very low crime rate and I am very fond of lamb.
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Ive also had the same idea as Sarge912.
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Old 08-01-2010, 01:07 AM
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yes i never looked at it that way ,quite true ,i was thinking along the lines of the amazing amount of great weapons you guys have access to,thanks for replies though
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I will trade you all of my great weapons if you can set me up with an acre or so of usable land in NZ, heck, I might throw in the safe if the trade is good enough.
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