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Old 07-12-2010, 02:03 AM
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Is there any survival colonies here?? What are your thoughts on a conlony?
Old 07-12-2010, 02:07 AM
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yes and i think its a peotwawki must
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I have heard of a few, google around, they may still be there.
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I think survival colonies are a wonderful idea. I am however, too mistrusting of humans to make actual contact with anyone though. SB is the closest I've allowed myself (that says a lot). I'd be willing to start a group or something here at SB or elsewhere on the interwebs for, in, and about my area but somebody else can be captain. Y'all can meet at your own risk. Money is also a problem for me, I can't spare any for land purchase. Some amazing SHTF would have to go down for me change my tune. I'll help organize but I'll stand alone. Maybe this is a start?
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I personally believe no one survives alone for any amount of time. We don't now, we won't then. 1 person can not possible handle crop growing, animal management, security, household management, hunting or any of the other number of things that will be needed by themselves. Maybe someone who lived way out in the boonies could but as long as you are within 2 or 3 hours travel of anyone, you have a security problem should shtf, imo. Then there's accidents or illness. Who's going to help if you are far from everyone and on your own. I vote for people being in groups.

I don't think there is a SB group but I do know that people do attend meet & greets. Some of the attendees are in hopes of finding groups they can join, others just looking for like minded friends.
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I have located a few groups via the internet, but you need to be careful because some group have a more sinister agenda than just survival. Study each one carefully before considering membership. I found my group, they just dont know it yet!
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There are so many people that are not to tightly wrapped that I dont like the idea of getting together with alot of people who I dont have a bond with. Some of are blessed with a big group of friends and family who have very simular ideas. I would be worried some idiot would want trouble and go looking for it.
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I think they're a good idea and I'm looking to start one myself. Cooperation in tough times is one of the things I was taught as a kid. If a bunch of industrious, self-reliant people pitch in and work together, nobody slacks and it gets done better and faster than if somebody did it alone.
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Extreme isolation is the key. Nature is one of the best self defense approaches cause without knowledge, it will kill you. Some good examples of survivalist that thrived would be Richard Proenneke, Noah John Rondeau, Heimo Korth, and many others. I personally believe people can't be trusted, cause when push comes to shove priorities are self centered.
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Over the years I have come to know a couple groups, I tend to think of them as 'communes' though.

In this state there are dozens of them. Mostly organic farms with a group of four to eight adult partners, the farms produce veggies and sell them at open-air Farmer's Markets. So they are self-supporting and self-sufficient now.

Actually I am a member of a group which networks these guys and which hosts an annual 'fair'. Three days of hourly workshops on hundreds of topics. Like: building your own underground home, woodlot management using horse teams, grain harvesting, bees, lots of topics.

My wife really likes the wool shearing, spinning and weaving workshops.

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If i found a good group of trust worthy people i would drop everything and join up. however the fear of the groups being some crazy cult. or antigun. or some secret slave labor camp keeps me from doing it.
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I, like many others dont trust outsiders. Thats why I was blessed with a big family. Nothing on earth can you trust more than your own family. Start there. My family like many other families have been life long freinds to many other families that we trust & consider our own family. Start there.

Dont join a group of people youve never met or barely know. Only Family can be held accountable & nothing is thicker than blood.
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im thinking about try to get a meet and greet together and view some land some large lots are on the market Pl share your thoughts
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The ones I've found lately were either 21st century hippie communes or wannbee survivalists who cant even bait a fishhook. Better yet, one group I found were a bunch of self-made protectors of the constitution who cant wait for TEOTWAWKI so they can "cap some commie liberals". Ummmm, I'll pass!
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Default I feel this is a valid point.

People and that includes both of us are self interested. Why not use that as the strength of your group?

And here is how that I mentioned on another thread about groups. Form an investment club with about 20 to 40 others and an investment amount say $2,000 each: total $40,000 to $80,000.

Use that to fund one or more businesses that someone in the group wants to start. That business needs to be related to survival/prepping. Advantage to the business a built in customer base. The business repays the loan and pays a small royalty to the club as long as they remain a member.

Advantage to the individual is a network and an investment that grows in value. Each individual serving their self interest is also serving the group's self interest.

You also place people doing what they are most skilled/comfortable at. Not everyone is cut out to be a homesteader.

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colonies will naturally spring up after a TEOTWAWKI event; it is human nature to band and work together. I do not consciously seek a colony now; but I know which of my neighbors has my back and they know I have theirs. I have arrangements with other family members to help each other, including relocating to their homes in other parts of the US and they can come to me, if conditions require it. Id do some networking first, the colony would follow naturally as a result of mutual respect & trust
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A family group yes.40 semi strangers? Nope.Never.
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I personally think the key to a successful group is independent ownership of your own land and not co-mingling of funds. For instance, I believe a subdivision devoted to selling lots or homes to survival minded people would be ideal. Where you're all on the same wavelength concerning 'natural rights' the Constitution and self sustainability minded, but you maintain complete control of your own property and funds. At least as much as .gov will allow.

I do not believe in the co-mingling of property and/or money in a survivalist group (or any group) because that means 'decisions' have to be made which are in the best interest of the 'group' and that starts getting too much into Collectivism and Communitarianism for my taste.

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Some family and very few close friends but never a stranger, not that I see a catastrophic event in my life but when times are hard it is a short list of people that I would want around my place. Communes/colonies are mostly a scam. Do you need to buy property if you are thinking it is a SHTF moment or would you just set up where ever you felt safe? I wouldn't give a dime to a group for any purchase. Prepare yourself, have friends, plan all you want but save you money and eyeball nice areas you could occupy if need be but don't go paying the group anything as when the event they are predicting comes to light your deed and agreement with them is all but worthless. Don't get taken in and supply some other guy the means to support his own survival and screw your family out of the same chance.
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In general its a good idea to band together to support each other. Go back 1000 yrs and beyond where most people lived in small communities. No one person can possess all the skills needed for the long haul. An individual can survive for some time, but to thrive and rebuild society it takes a community.

The Bible gives a glimpse of the cross section of the society which consisted of specialists like stone worker, weaver, fisherman, goat herder, farmer, pottery makers, military, musicians, blacksmiths, etc. Also made defense of their lives and assets much easier working as a group.

The ancients had it figured out what worked best for the group as a whole. No need to reinvent the wheel.
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