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Saiga AK in .308 rifle config 40 45.45%
Regular AK-47 in 7.62x39 48 54.55%
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Old 06-09-2010, 01:40 PM
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Default Saiga AK in .308 or just regular AK-47?



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I'm considering a new purchase in a few weeks. I'm thinking about:

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct455.aspx

OR

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct752.aspx

(Or similar from a different site/ or shop)


The purpose/use of the rifle is:

Medium range, large caliber, main go-to SHTF rifle.
-- dependable
-- durable
-- affordable ammo to be able to stock deep

I would probably put on a red dot mounted to a low profile side-scope mount.


What do you think?
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i LOVE My .308 Saiga!!! Depends on What You Are Looking For.. i Also Have A Wasr-10 7.62x39 Each Has it's Own Purpose..
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I'd go for (indeed I did buy) the 7.62x39 - lots of cheap surplus ammo.

Saiga also do 5.56 if you wanted to run it alongside an AR variant.

I bought mine from this chap. You couldn't buy rifles from him because he's UK based but it shows the alternatives open to you.

He can ship you the accessories though.

http://www.rusmilitary.com/html/firearms_svd.htm
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I voted for the 308 because I already have other rifles chambered for that caliber. Might as well share the same ammo at least.

Do you currently own anything that is chambered in 308, or 7.62x39mm?

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I think if your going AK then the 47 in 7.62X39 is the way to go. If you are looking for a .308 rifle this would be a better choice.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/78352

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7.62X39 is easy to come by all over the world. The 308 is one sweet round, but for the needs of survival I don't think you can beat the 7.62.
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I voted for the 308 because I already have other rifles chambered for that caliber. Might as well share the same ammo at least.

Do you currently own anything that is chambered in 308, or 7.62x39mm?

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Nope - this will add a new caliber to the collection. Always an expensive thing to do.
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Nope - this will add a new caliber to the collection. Always an expensive thing to do.
7.62x39mm would save you some coin vs 308 in that case. Mags, spare parts should be easier to locate as well.

Let us know what you go for in the end
Good luck with your decision.


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I just got my saiga x39. was looking at the 308s.

308 is way more expensive than 7.62x39.

If you get a saiga x39 it's a lot less than a standard ak, better quality than some on the market, Russian made, did I mention cheap? Got mine for $330. and just bought 500 rounds of brown bear to go with it.

That being said. I would go with a Saiga x39 and buy 500 rounds of ammo for the same price as a .308 saiga without any ammo.

I also don't trust AK's I've seen on the market. Some are just poorly made. If you want a good AK you have to buy something like an Arsenal or take your chances on a Century amrs parts gun.

For me the choice was simple. Get a saiga and convert it. Cheap and easy. Plus it's a brand new AK. Not a parts gun.
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I voted for the 7.62X39mm after reading the intended use you posted. The rifle, mags, and ammo are all cheaper than the .308.
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x39 is cheap and fun to plink around with....308 starts to stress when you let loose a 20 round mag for the fun of it.
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AK easy choice, plenty of mags for cheap,ammo is cheaper.
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Quote:
Medium range, large caliber, main go-to SHTF rifle.
-- dependable
-- durable
both will handle these with out a problem

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-- affordable ammo to be able to stock deep
7.62X39 wins this hands down.
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Well the 7.62x39 AK is a carbine, while the 308 variant is a rifle. Which one you should choose depends on the role you want to put it in.
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7.62X39 is easy to come by all over the world. The 308 is one sweet round, but for the needs of survival I don't think you can beat the 7.62.
Post event world travel is not a likely senerio. The 308 Winchester's military designation is 7.62x51 NATO. 7.62x51 is what should be shoot in military style long guns of that cartridge like the M1A1. Commercial 308 Winchester should no be long term as there are chamber pressure variences betweem the two cartridges. One can make usable 308 brass from 3006 casings. You also can use the bullets as well. 3006 is one of the most common American rifle rounds.
The 308 and 7.62x51 have three times the effective range compared to the 7.62x39.
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The 308 and 7.62x51 have three times the effective range compared to the 7.62x39.
Yep, on paper and in practice but not in combat necessarilly, the 7.62x39 is a great choice of a fighting caliber. How many can truly utilize the 3X more reange? How many can do it under fire? We need to be more realistic instead of pie in the sky. Most of the so called "experts" say the 556 is a better stopper than the x39, truth is another matter folks. All 3 rounds will work but the most economical by far is the x39,period. It has the ballistics to do what anyone needs doing and what most are capable of.
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Yep, on paper and in practice but not in combat necessarilly, the 7.62x39 is a great choice of a fighting caliber. How many can truly utilize the 3X more reange? How many can do it under fire? We need to be more realistic instead of pie in the sky. Most of the so called "experts" say the 556 is a better stopper than the x39, truth is another matter folks. All 3 rounds will work but the most economical by far is the x39,period. It has the ballistics to do what anyone needs doing and what most are capable of.
Actually I agree with your statement. In my group we are set up in two person teams one with a full power MBR 7.62x51 class and the other a military type carbine most in 7.62x39.
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I had to vote for regular AK in 7.62x39. That's what I bought and never been sorry. Like many others have commented, either round can do what you want but the cost of ammo, magazines and many other intangibles heavily favor 7.62x39 over .308. Now if you really need to reach out and touch the .308 is far superior but for man-sized targets inside 200 yards the smaller AK round will do just fine.
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I have shot both you mentioned. I would go with the standard X39 round my self (and have). If you want a .308 get something with better accuracy IMHO, the SAIGA AK based 308 is not a percision firearm by any means. Just my 2 cents.

a good x39 can be had for the same price, but ammo is FAR cheaper
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Around my neck of the woods .308 ammo is far more plentiful than x39. Much better quality and available in far more choices. I hate to say it, but ammo availability heavily influences my choice and is the primary reason I go with .308 over x39. If this isn't an issue for you, then I see no problem going with x39.

223 is even more plentiful and cheap, but I'm assuming that's not an option you're considering.

That said, I really like Saiga
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