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Old 05-22-2010, 10:25 AM
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I am thinking about buying an SKS but I stumbled upon the CA attorney general`s website and it has a whole paragraph specific to the SKS. From what I can gather they are not legal to own in CA.
Anyone know if they are legal to own in CA? and does anyone know why they are singled out like this?

http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12275.php

12281. (a) Any person who, or firm, company, or corporation that, operated a retail or other commercial firm, company, or corporation, and manufactured, distributed, transported, imported, possessed, possessed for sale, offered for sale, or transferred, for commercial purpose, an SKS rifle in California between January 1, 1992, and December 19, 1997, shall be immune from criminal prosecution under Section 12280. The immunity provided in this subdivision shall apply retroactively to any person who, or firm, company, or corporation that, is or was charged by complaint or indictment with a violation of Section 12280 for conduct related to an SKS rifle, whether or not the case of that person, firm, company, or corporation is final.
(b) Any person who possessed, gave, loaned, or transferred an SKS rifle in California between January 1, 1992, and December 19, 1997, shall be immune from criminal prosecution under Section 12280. The immunity provided in this subdivision shall apply retroactively to any person who was charged by complaint or indictment with a violation of Section 12280 for conduct related to an SKS rifle, whether or not the case of that person is final.
(c) Any SKS rifle in the possession of any person who, or firm, company, or corporation that, is described in subdivision (a) or (b), shall not be subject to seizure by law enforcement for violation of Section 12280 prior to January 1, 2000.
(d) Any person, firm, company, or corporation, convicted under Section 12280 for conduct relating to an SKS rifle, shall be permitted to withdraw his or her plea of guilty or nolo contendere, or to reopen his or her case and assert the immunities provided in this section, if the court determines that the allowance of the immunity is in the interests of justice. The court shall interpret this section liberally to the benefit of the defendant.
(e) The Department of Justice shall notify all district attorneys on or before January 31, 1999, of the provisions of this section. The department shall identify all criminal prosecutions in the state for conduct related to SKS rifles within 90 days of the effective date of this section. In all cases so identified by the Attorney General, the district attorneys shall inform defense counsel, or the defendant if the defendant is in propria persona, in writing, of the provisions of this section within 120 days of the effective date of this section.
(f)(1) Any person, firm, company, or corporation that is in possession of an SKS rifle shall do one of the following on or before January 1, 2000:
(A) Relinquish the SKS rifle to the Department of Justice pursuant to subdivision (h).
(B) Relinquish the SKS rifle to a law enforcement agency pursuant to Section 12288.
(C) Dispose of the SKS rifle as permitted by Section 12285.
(2) Any person who has obtained title to an SKS rifle by bequest or intestate succession shall be required to comply with subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) of this subdivision unless he or she otherwise complies with paragraph (1) of subdivision (b) of Section 12285.
(3) Any SKS rifle relinquished to the department pursuant to this subdivision shall be in a manner prescribed by the department.
(4) The department shall conduct a public education and notification program as described in Section 12289, commencing no later than January 1, 1999.
(g) Any person who complies with subdivision (f) shall be exempt from the prohibitions set forth in subdivision (a) or (b) of Section 12280 for those acts by that person associated with complying with the requirements of subdivision (f).
(h)(1) The department shall purchase any SKS rifle relinquished pursuant to subdivision (f) from funds appropriated for this purpose by the act amending this section in the 1997-98 Regular Session of the Legislature or by subsequent budget acts or other legislation. The department shall adopt regulations for this purchase program that include, but are not limited to, the manner of delivery, the reimbursement to be paid, and the manner in which persons shall be informed of the state purchase program.
(2) Any person who relinquished possession of an SKS rifle to a law enforcement agency pursuant to Section 12288 prior to the effective date of the purchase program set forth in paragraph (1) shall be eligible to be reimbursed from the purchase program. The procedures for reimbursement pursuant to this paragraph shall be part of the regulations adopted by the department pursuant to paragraph (1).
(i) Notwithstanding paragraph (11) of subdivision (a) of Section 12276, an "SKS rifle" under this section means all SKS rifles commonly referred to as "SKS Sporter" versions, manufactured to accept a detachable AK-47 magazine and imported into this state and sold by a licensed gun dealer, or otherwise lawfully possessed in this state by a resident of this state who is not a licensed gun dealer, between January 1, 1992, and December 19, 1997.
(j) Failure to comply with subdivision (f) is a public offense punishable by imprisonment in the state prison, or in a county jail, not exceeding one year.
(k) In addition to the regulations required pursuant to subdivision (h), emergency regulations for the purchase program described in subdivision (h) shall be adopted pursuant to Chapter 3.5 (commencing with Section 11340) of Part 1 of Division 3 of Title 2 of the Government Code.
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Such a retarded state, why would any gun person live there? Serioulsy MOVE...
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i thought you could own one that wasnt converted to be a high Capacity weapon.

you know the original 10 round magazine.


but what do i know? cali sucks for so many reasons and this is the biggest one to me besides the illegals.. and gangs etc.
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CA doesnt like any auto-loading firearm. The SKS is popular b/c its effective, inexpensive, and the mall ninjas love to trick them out.
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I would suggest spending some time at http://www.calguns.net/ and find out what is legal in CA. As far as know a fixed mag. SKS is legal, but I do not own one and cannot say for sure. It does appear to be legal though.
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I think the section of the law posted above relates only to the SKS D and M models only. These two versions are not legal to own in California, because they use the AK magazine. If you owned one--you had to turn them back in and get compensated by the Komisars.

And actually the stock fixed-box SKS's are quite legal to own in California. They are sold most everywhere--even at Big 5 sporting goods. Though they are not as easy and cheap to obtain like there were back in the 90's when you could pick one up at a gunshow from $50 to $75 brand new (new Russian models in the cosmoline).

For some strange reason you cannot still own an SKS M or D model, but you can own an AK with a detachable mag. In fact you can buy them brand new, even the Saiga's still (even L1A's, AR's M1A's and so on).... this is wierd. Any military style rifle can possessust one bad feature--that is detachable mag, pistol grip, flash hider or barrel shroud. So the way people in Cali get around this particularly with an AK (and the others) is to use a bullet-button device (mag is removed with a tool) --which takes a whole 1/2 second longer than the regular mag release.

Or they keep the mag-release, and use a grip shroud--which is thingy that goes around the pistol grip so you cannot wrap your thumb around it. If you cannot wrap your finger around a stock protrusion--it is not a pistol grip. Yeah it looks wierd, but you can pick up AR's and AK's and Galils and L1A's at gunshows in Cali still with these things installed making them legal.

So back to the SKS--yes it is legal in Kommiefornia still to this day, and yes you can remove the stock ammo box and install say a Tapco 10 round detachable magazine if you like... and this is perfectly kosher. They openly and legally sell both Tapco and Pro-mag made detachable mags at gunshows.

Or you can just keep the beast the way it is. But like I said the SKS is not a cheap rifle anymore. They will go in the 300 hondo range. The most available are the Yugo SKS's now--which will go up to 375 hondos or more.

If you were going to get such a beast--get a Ruger Mini 30. And yes these are quite legal in Commiefornia still--along with its big brother the M1A. But you are limited to a 10 round detachable mag... unless that is you owned a hi-cap mag preban (200), then you can go to town.

You can legally own and use hi-cap preban mags without any fear (2000 and before).

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Thanks for the info...... If I could leave Cali I would move tomorrow.
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But just do some checking for me.... I do believe it is okay to install a detachable 10 round mag on the SKS now. Tapco and Promag and some other donkey's make them and are selling them at Cali gunshows.

I personally would like to know if this is kosher now.
So someone do the homework please.

A detachable 10 rounder counts at 3 922r parts, and this goes a long way with just one 20 hondo purchase.

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hondo??? whats that dollars?


so does cali have any other crazie laws? I watched that hollywood shootout and i see how they are paranoid about long guns.. but comeone this is rediculous.
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Yes--a hondo is a FRN.
This is way too, too hip language for some people here.

People in the pacific southwest are way more advanced, savvy and hip than people east of the Mississippi River.

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Must have FIXED magazine no more than 10 rounds, no pistol grip, no folding stock, no bayonet lug.

And must not be one of the specifically banned models that are on the DOJ list.

Still see CA OK SKS on sale occasionally.
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What CA has done is outlaw all martial firearms.

The reason being (the condensed version) during martial law, if you are captured with a martial weapon, you are an enemy combatant, and are accorded the Geneva Conventions.
If you are caught with a civilian hunting firearm you can be shot on sight as a looter.

Check out the Gun act of 1968, the start of the demise of the second amendment. Clinton's crime bill furthered this.
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I didn't even know you were allowed to fart in public in Kalifornia, much less own an SKS or an AK.
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No problem to own in California I buy them have one whatever no problem
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I live in NY, close to the same game as california with military rifles, but a little looser.

SKS is legal in CA. There is only 2 illegal versions as Far as CA goes. One is the SKS D and M models Takezo stated. The other is the yugoslavian 59/66A1. They do not allow you to have a grenade launcher on there. However, if you install the Tapco muzzlebrake for yugo's, it renders the grenade launcher useless. the ATF also allow this part and you still retain the curio and relic exempt status on it. Baisc guns only legal to import under curio and relic status must be kept stock. Yes, many people hot rod the yugo sks, but it is not legal.

Don;t be afraid to buy a SKS. It is legal there and it is a pretty good firearm too. 10 shots, quick to reload. It a good example of a military gun and it served it's original purpose very well. It was designed as a replacement to the mosin nagant bolt action rifle. It was desgined to be simple, robust, and with lower recoil. These traits were ideal for a poorly trained soldiers to produce decent results with what they have. A close range defensive firearm. I could afford fancier rifles, however, I believe the SKS is adequate for what I need it to do.

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Everybody talks about the republic of Kalifornia as if they know anything, I have visited many states and you better check your own gun laws, you might find the limitations in Kalifornia more open than your own.
I can carry my guns in Kali out in public and on state land and we actually have what is called state land DO YOU?
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I am thinking about buying an SKS but I stumbled upon the CA attorney general`s website and it has a whole paragraph specific to the SKS. From what I can gather they are not legal to own in CA.
Anyone know if they are legal to own in CA? and does anyone know why they are singled out like this?

http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12275.php

12281. (a) Any person who, or firm, company, or corporation that, operated a retail or other commercial firm, company, or corporation, and manufactured, distributed, transported, imported, possessed, possessed for sale, offered for sale, or transferred, for commercial purpose, an SKS rifle in California between January 1, 1992, and December 19, 1997, shall be immune from criminal prosecution under Section 12280. The immunity provided in this subdivision shall apply retroactively to any person who, or firm, company, or corporation that, is or was charged by complaint or indictment with a violation of Section 12280 for conduct related to an SKS rifle, whether or not the case of that person, firm, company, or corporation is final.
(b) Any person who possessed, gave, loaned, or transferred an SKS rifle in California between January 1, 1992, and December 19, 1997, shall be immune from criminal prosecution under Section 12280. The immunity provided in this subdivision shall apply retroactively to any person who was charged by complaint or indictment with a violation of Section 12280 for conduct related to an SKS rifle, whether or not the case of that person is final.
(c) Any SKS rifle in the possession of any person who, or firm, company, or corporation that, is described in subdivision (a) or (b), shall not be subject to seizure by law enforcement for violation of Section 12280 prior to January 1, 2000.
(d) Any person, firm, company, or corporation, convicted under Section 12280 for conduct relating to an SKS rifle, shall be permitted to withdraw his or her plea of guilty or nolo contendere, or to reopen his or her case and assert the immunities provided in this section, if the court determines that the allowance of the immunity is in the interests of justice. The court shall interpret this section liberally to the benefit of the defendant.
(e) The Department of Justice shall notify all district attorneys on or before January 31, 1999, of the provisions of this section. The department shall identify all criminal prosecutions in the state for conduct related to SKS rifles within 90 days of the effective date of this section. In all cases so identified by the Attorney General, the district attorneys shall inform defense counsel, or the defendant if the defendant is in propria persona, in writing, of the provisions of this section within 120 days of the effective date of this section.
(f)(1) Any person, firm, company, or corporation that is in possession of an SKS rifle shall do one of the following on or before January 1, 2000:
(A) Relinquish the SKS rifle to the Department of Justice pursuant to subdivision (h).
(B) Relinquish the SKS rifle to a law enforcement agency pursuant to Section 12288.
(C) Dispose of the SKS rifle as permitted by Section 12285.
(2) Any person who has obtained title to an SKS rifle by bequest or intestate succession shall be required to comply with subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) of this subdivision unless he or she otherwise complies with paragraph (1) of subdivision (b) of Section 12285.
(3) Any SKS rifle relinquished to the department pursuant to this subdivision shall be in a manner prescribed by the department.
(4) The department shall conduct a public education and notification program as described in Section 12289, commencing no later than January 1, 1999.
(g) Any person who complies with subdivision (f) shall be exempt from the prohibitions set forth in subdivision (a) or (b) of Section 12280 for those acts by that person associated with complying with the requirements of subdivision (f).
(h)(1) The department shall purchase any SKS rifle relinquished pursuant to subdivision (f) from funds appropriated for this purpose by the act amending this section in the 1997-98 Regular Session of the Legislature or by subsequent budget acts or other legislation. The department shall adopt regulations for this purchase program that include, but are not limited to, the manner of delivery, the reimbursement to be paid, and the manner in which persons shall be informed of the state purchase program.
(2) Any person who relinquished possession of an SKS rifle to a law enforcement agency pursuant to Section 12288 prior to the effective date of the purchase program set forth in paragraph (1) shall be eligible to be reimbursed from the purchase program. The procedures for reimbursement pursuant to this paragraph shall be part of the regulations adopted by the department pursuant to paragraph (1).
(i) Notwithstanding paragraph (11) of subdivision (a) of Section 12276, an "SKS rifle" under this section means all SKS rifles commonly referred to as "SKS Sporter" versions, manufactured to accept a detachable AK-47 magazine and imported into this state and sold by a licensed gun dealer, or otherwise lawfully possessed in this state by a resident of this state who is not a licensed gun dealer, between January 1, 1992, and December 19, 1997.
(j) Failure to comply with subdivision (f) is a public offense punishable by imprisonment in the state prison, or in a county jail, not exceeding one year.
(k) In addition to the regulations required pursuant to subdivision (h), emergency regulations for the purchase program described in subdivision (h) shall be adopted pursuant to Chapter 3.5 (commencing with Section 11340) of Part 1 of Division 3 of Title 2 of the Government Code.
Brother,
Move out of COMMIEFOREIGNia and come on over to Texas where you can basically own whatever you want. The cost of living definitely cheaper, no state income tax, etc. KHALIFOREIGNia's despicable and blatant infringement of your 2nd Amendment rights and ALL your other rights/freedoms makes me wanna puke!

Leave that hunk of sludge that is someday gonna slide into the brine from "the big one" hopefully taking dysentery like Peloskank, Slimestein, "Whack-off" Waxman, AHnold, and Boxer with it.

Come on over to Texas bro, buy whatever SKS/AK platform you want and we'll buy you some barbeque and a few cold ones!
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Also, don't forget there are tons of county and town regulations in california too.
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A guy asks about a rifle and half the people tell him to move. That's real helpful.

As sailinghudson said, stay away from the Yugo SKS and the SKS that has a detachable AK mag. You are good to go with the others. Also, don't change the fixed 10 round mag to a larger one or you now have an Assault Weapon. If you pick one up, just leave it stock.

For what you pay for a SKS now, you can pick up a Saiga. It's basically an AK with a straight stock. Just don't get one stamped Kalashnikov.
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This is way too, too hip language for some people here.

People in the pacific southwest are way more advanced, savvy and hip than people east of the Mississippi River.

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