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Old 03-27-2010, 12:51 AM
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I've been learning all I can in regards to cabin building using only hand tools, the most important tool being an axe. This has led to me going a little overboard (as I tend to do with hobbies). Anyways, with my new found hobby of collecting/restoring/re-handling axes I've tried to put a little info together. This is just in the preliminary stages, mind you.

I'm sure there are some of you who are much more knowledgeable on this topic than me so feel free to share some info.

I've tried to make a list of the most commonly found axes for collectors or just those who don't put too much confidence in contemporary axes (for good reason in most cases). In the list I've tried to include the city and state for US made axes, and country of origin for axes made abroad. The list isn't complete, but I thought I'd go ahead and share it with you guys. I'll edit it as I find more info and if any of you have any info to add, feel free to let me know and I'll edit accordingly.

Here's the list as it sits now (if you're reading this at a later date it may have changed):


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CURRENTLY PRODUCED

Barco Industries (Reading, PA) http://www.barcotools.com
-----Now producing the "Kelly" branding of axes that were previously made by other companies
Bahco (Sweden) http://www.bahco.us
-----New production axes are apparently made in Germany...but there is some discrepancy here
Bark River Knife & Tool (Escanaba, MI) http://www.barkriverknifetool.com/
-----Also provide axe profiling, grinding, and sharpening services ***these services are highly recommended***
Council Tool Company (Lake Waccamaw, NC) http://www.counciltool.com/
Craftsman (USA?) http://www.sears.com/
Estwing (Rockford, IL) http://www.estwing.com/
Firestone (Tucson, AZ) http://www.mcgowanmfg.com/index.cfm?category=1
Fiskars (Finland) http://www3.fiskars.com/
Gransfors Bruks (Sweden) http://www.gransfors.com/
Hults Bruks (H.B.) (Sweden) http://www.hultaforsgroup.com/
-----Now part of Hultafors Group
Husqvarna (Sweden) http://www.husqvarna.com/us/
-----These are re-branded Wetterlings axes (however, quite a bit cheaper than regular Wetterlings )
Lee Reeves (Shattuck, OK) http://ssidders.tripod.com/id69.htm
Leonhard Müller & Söhne (Austria) http://www.mueller-hammerwerk.at/hammerwerk/index.html
Marble's (USA?) ???
-----I know these are still produced, though I can't find a manufacturers website
Ochsenkopf Äxte (Germany) http://www.gedore.de/en/products/group_overview.html?pm_id=57412&oe_opt[list_set]=28362,57412
-----"Ox Head" branding for USA market
-----Stihl re-brands these axes for the US market (and possibly other countries?)...they use the "Iltis" line of Ochsenkopf axes
Pfeil Tools (Sweden) http://www.pfeiltools.ch/
Plumb (Philadelphia, PA) http://www.cooperhandtools.com/brands/plumb/index.cfm
-----Produced "Keen Kutter" for a time in addition to Kelly
-----Current production is by Cooper tools with their headquarters in Houston, TX
Roughneck (UK) http://www.olympia-tools.co.uk/
Snow & Nealley (Brewer, ME) http://www.snowandnealley.com/
Stihl (Germany) http://stihl.com/
-----These are rebranded Ochsenkopf "Ilsit" axes
-----Also, Stihl previously sold re-branded Fiskars axes....as far as I know they no longer do
True Temper (USA?) http://www.amestruetemper.com/index.html
Tuatahi Axes (New Zealand) http://www.tuatahiaxes.com/
-----Highly regarded for their race axes, but make work axes as well
Vaughan (USA?) http://hammernet.com/vaughan/pages/p...chets-axes.php
-----Produce the "Supersteel" and "Sub-Zero" brandings
Wetterlings (Sweden) http://www.wetterlings.com/
-----Technically owned by Gransfors Bruks now, however it still operates independently

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NO LONGER PRODUCED

A. Keys (USA?)
A. Tredway & Sons Hardware Company (Dubuque, IO)
-----Sold "Lincoln" brand axes that were produced by Mann Edge Tool Co.
American Axe & Tool Company (AA&T Co.)(Glassport, PA)
American Fork & Hoe (Cleveland, OH)
-----Produced hatchets for US Military around WWII
Bingham's Best Brand (BBB) (Cleveland, OH)
Barker Rose & Kimball Inc. (Elmira, NY)
-----"Cayuga" branding....Indian head logo
Belknap (Louisville, KY)
-----"Bluegrass" branding
Blood Axe Factory (Ballston & Bloodville, NY)
Bridgeport (Bridgeport, CT)
Collins (Collinsville, CT)
-----"Legitimus" branding
-----"Homestead" branding
-----Was bought by Mann Edge Tool Co. and relocated to Lewistown, PA
Crusader (USA?)
D.R. Barton (Rochester, NY)
Douglas (USA?)
Dunlap (USA)
Dunlap & Madeira (Chambersburg, PA)
E.C. Simmons (St. Louis, MO)
-----"Keen Kutter" branding
E. Rogers (USA?)
Elwell (UK)
Germantown (G.T.W.) (Germantown, PA)
-----Used a keystone shaped logo with "GTW" inside
Hammond (Philadelphia, PA)
H.S.B. (USA?)
H.S.Cc (Germany)
H.S.W. (Sweden)
Holmes (Pittsburgh, PA)
Hytest (Australia)
J. Fowler Company Ltd. (St. John, New Brunswick, Canada)
J. M. Warren (Troy, NY)
Kelly Axe & Tool Company (Charleston, WV)
-----Used "True Temper" branding
-----Made "Lincoln" branded axes after Mann Edge Tool Co. stopped
-----"Black Raven" branding
-----Was bought by American Fork & Hoe Co. and continued using the Kelly name for axes
-----Produced the "Keen Kutter" line for a period of time
Kelley How Thomson (Duluth, MN)
-----"Hickory" branding
Kretschmer - Tredway Company (Dubuque, IO)
-----Sold "Lincoln" brand axes that were produced by Mann Edge Tool Co.
Lake Side (USA?)
M. Horton (USA?)
Mann Edge Tool Company (Lewistown, PA)
-----"Collins" branding
-----"Norlund" axe heads
-----Produced "Lincoln" Axes for various companies/distributors
Marshall Wells Hardware Company (M.W.H. Co.)(Duluth, MN)
Mound City (St. Louis, MO)
Norlund (UK)
-----Axe heads were made for Norlund by Mann Edge Tool Co. in Lewistown, PA originally
-----Norlund's went out of business and the brand has been used by various companies since
Pioneer (USA?)
Powell Tool Company (Cleveland, OH)
Sandvik (Sweden)
Schreiber, Conchar & Westphal Company (Dubuque, IO)
-----Sold "Lincoln" brand axes that were produced by Mann Edge Tool Co.
Simmons & Company (Cohoes, NY)
St. Pierre (Worcester, MA)
Stanley (USA?)
Underhill Edge Tool Company (Boston, MA)
W. Beatty & Son (Rochester, NY)
Wards (USA?)
Warren Axe & Tool Company (USA?)
William Beatty (Chester, PA)
Winchester (USA?)
__________________________________________________ ____________


For US made axes that I wasn't sure of the city and state I put a ? next to the USA as the location. Admittedly, some of the axe manufacturers listed may have USA listed next to them and actually be made abroad. I did this simply because most of the axes found stateside are made here, so it was a bit of an assumption. Like I said before, if I find new info I will change things as necessary. Also it should be noted that many of the "makers" listed may simply be distributors that had the axes made for them and marked with their information. I have noted this below the "makers" if it was something I was aware of. For axes made abroad I have simply used the country of origin without specifying city or town.

Some manufacturers moved locations, were sold to other companies, etc. which, without writing a book, is hard to note.

One thing I'd really like help with is trying to differentiate "models" from manufacturers. Some of the makers I have listed (such as Pioneer) I believe to be a model of axe rather than a manufacturer. But I'm not sure on some of them, so I will leave them until I figure it out. Some of the seemingly "simple" ones to figure out such as Stanley, Craftsman, and Winchester I didn't want to simply list the tool company's location due to the fact that I wasn't sure if they out-sourced the making of the axes or not. More or less I haven't taken the time to find out, but didn't want to eat crow when I found out otherwise if I was wrong.

I figure this may come in handy for those of you who find an old axe and would like to know more about it.

Now, with all that being said, just because they are listed here doesn't necessarily mean they are a "great" axe. I personally prefer Scandinavian axes, but there are quite a few US axes that I would like to get my hands on. I can't say many contemporary US made axes have my attention, but I've been surprised before.

Also, I haven't listed any "hawk" manufacturers simply because there are a ton of individuals who make them and that might be best saved for a different thread if someone so desired.

Well, let me know if you have any input, info, or history to help out. And don't jump down my throat if I have left something out or listed something incorrectly, I just started this earlier this evening.

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Firstly, welcome to the forum and secondly, damn fine post -- lots of research went into it and thank you for posting it!

Web links to still producing companies would have been really nice to have had!

You will love this link to Yesteryear Tools is an Internet Magazine that concentrates on hand tools, the toolmakers and the tool distributors that operated mostly between the mid-1800s and mid to late-1900s--Excellent reference source for collectors!

Crosscut Saw Co., Seneca Falls, NY is a very good site for log building tools...

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Ochsenkopf Äxte (Germany)
-----"Ox Head" branding for USA market
-----Stihl re-brands these axes for the US market (and possibly other places?)
Marketed under the "Iltis" brand...I have some of them and they are superb Axes...

You're missing Fiskars which makes their own label and the Gerber brand of axes...also:
Lee Reeves,
McGowan Mfg., which makes the Firestone brand of hatchets,
Leonhard Müller & Söhne GmbH,

I've also compiled a Tomahawk - Tactical and Traditional list on the forum already -- found in American, Canadian and European made knives in the Sticky Section above...I thought that Jerry (The Moderator) would have made it into its own sticky but he must of forgot...I've made a revised one with some makers who I had forgotten to include, mea culpa!

EDIT
Missed the Lee Reeves but at least it has a link to it now

W/Could you divide it up into defunct, out of business makers and those still producing? It would be easier to soty through I would think...
I'm searching for the links at present to add to my own data base of active makers...
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Firstly, welcome to the forum and secondly, damn fine post -- lots of research went into it and thank you for posting it!

Web links to still producing companies would have been really nice to have had!

You will love this link to Yesteryear Tools is an Internet Magazine that concentrates on hand tools, the toolmakers and the tool distributors that operated mostly between the mid-1800s and mid to late-1900s--Excellent reference source for collectors!

Crosscut Saw Co., Seneca Falls, NY is a very good site for log building tools...


Marketed under the "Iltis" brand...I have some of them and they are superb Axes...

You're missing Fiskars which makes their own label and the Gerber brand of axes...also:
Lee Reeves,
McGowan Mfg., which makes the Firestone brand of hatchets,
Leonhard Müller & Söhne GmbH,

I've also compiled a Tomahawk - Tactical and Traditional list on the forum already -- found in American, Canadian and European made knives in the Sticky Section above...I thought that Jerry (The Moderator) would have made it into its own sticky but he must of forgot...I've made a revised one with some makers who I had forgotten to include, mea culpa!

EDIT
Missed the Lee Reeves but at least it has a link to it now

W/Could you divide it up into defunct, out of business makers and those still producing? It would be easier to soty through I would think...
I'm searching for the links at present to add to my own data base of active makers...
Alright, well I went back in and separated the current production from the formerly produced. I also added links to the manufacturers website (or the closest thing I could find) for the currently production axes.

A quick google search will let you find retailers for the current stuff pretty easily. If anyone needs any help I'll be glad to find them for you though.

Back to your post....Yes, Ive spent quite a bit of time on the Yesteryear Tools site...LOTS of info....almost too much haha...but it is where I got some of my info.

I will be sure to check out the Cross Cut Saws site.

"Iltis" is a line of axes that Ochsenkopf makes....just as "Ox-Head" is one of their lines. I made sure to make note of it a little better up above in case it was confusing.

This HAS taken a little time, but it's no big deal. Hope it helps some of you out.

Oh, and I guess I should mention this....I was aware that Fiskars was a manufacturer also, however I never liked them and so maybe subconsciously I left them out... :P They are listed now
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Marbles safety and belt axes along with its knife production has moved over seas. So screw them, I won't buy anything from them.
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The Vauhgan link does not work when copied.
"http://hammernet.com/vaughan/pages/products/hatchets-axes.php"
Great info as I need an axe.
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Wow Mountaineer ... thanks. Great post.

I'm not enough of a collector to matter but I am an avid rehandler. Just about to finish doing two more today. I'll find old axe heads in barns or antique stores and rehandle them, clean them up and put them to use or leave them laying around for some other guy like me to find a hundred years from now.

I also like taking broken handles (those with heads still attached) and putting new, better handles on them .... more ergonomic than those that accompanied them straight from the factories.

I just recently also invested in a GB hunters axe and a Wetterling (and later learned they are both now owned by the same man) and I must admit there is something to be said for quality axes and hatchets.

The guy at Highland Hardware in Atlanta, where we were when I bought the GB, also told me that Ox-Head and Firestone make excellent axes btw ... not sure I remember seeing them on your list.

This Company makes Ox Head: http://www.gedore.co.za/
(http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/ox-head-axes.aspx)
I looked at some of these while there and they are very nice, German made, axes.

This company makes Firestone: http://www.mcgowanmfg.com/index.cfm?category=1
(although they are more well known for their DiamondStone brand sharpeners and their hatchet and axe line is very limited and niche)
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The Vauhgan link does not work when copied.
"http://hammernet.com/vaughan/pages/products/hatchets-axes.php"
Great info as I need an axe.
Hmm, it works when I click on it. Is it still not working?
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Wow Mountaineer ... thanks. Great post.

I'm not enough of a collector to matter but I am an avid rehandler. Just about to finish doing two more today. I'll find old axe heads in barns or antique stores and rehandle them, clean them up and put them to use or leave them laying around for some other guy like me to find a hundred years from now.

I also like taking broken handles (those with heads still attached) and putting new, better handles on them .... more ergonomic than those that accompanied them straight from the factories.

I just recently also invested in a GB hunters axe and a Wetterling (and later learned they are both now owned by the same man) and I must admit there is something to be said for quality axes and hatchets.

The guy at Highland Hardware in Atlanta, where we were when I bought the GB, also told me that Ox-Head and Firestone make excellent axes btw ... not sure I remember seeing them on your list.

This Company makes Ox Head: http://www.gedore.co.za/
(http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/ox-head-axes.aspx)
I looked at some of these while there and they are very nice, German made, axes.

This company makes Firestone: http://www.mcgowanmfg.com/index.cfm?category=1
(although they are more well known for their DiamondStone brand sharpeners and their hatchet and axe line is very limited and niche)
Yeah, Ox Head is listed under Ochsenkopf axes on the list. They are the company that produces them, Gedore Group technically bought them out though.

And I'll add the Firestone axes in, thanks!
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Yeah, Ox Head is listed under Ochsenkopf axes on the list. They are the company that produces them, Gedore Group technically bought them out though.

And I'll add the Firestone axes in, thanks!
Iltis Ox Head Axes from Ochsenkopf Axte…

Ochsen = Oxen -- kopf = Head -- Äxte = Axes
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I guess I should clarify...

I was under the impression that they actually marked "Ox Head" on the heads of the axes for export to the US. All others simply say "Ochsenkopf".
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Well I have some more makers to add to the list, but it looks like its not going to let me edit my original post anymore...
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Mlountaineer: An incredibly impressive post. A wealth of information. Don't know if you want to add this in but I recently bought a Gerber Camp Axe and it is marked as being made by Fiskars of Finland who I think probably know how to make a good axe.
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Yeah, I listed Fiskars....I should have noted under it that they make the popular Gerber axes as well.
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Is it possible to get this made into a sticky at the top? Great info. I am not sure the procedure to request a thread be made into a sticky and I hope that a mod doesn't consider this to be out of line.
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i just picked up a WARREN axe at a garage sale today,, it says troy NY on it. having trouble finding info on the company, and age of the axe.
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i just picked up a WARREN axe at a garage sale today,, it says troy NY on it. having trouble finding info on the company, and age of the axe.
That is a damn fine axe, ive used that double-bit many times. The company (JM warren) went out in the mid-late 70's. They used a three peice forging technique, which means it's stonger and keeps an edge much longer than single steel forged axes. Iv'e used it to fell, peel, and buck dozens and dozens of trees without needing to resharpen. Bottom line is that you have an axe that is FAR superior to anything manufactured today. hold on to it, or sell it to me, i'll happily pay at least 150 for it. if you have a double bit warren in good condition I would buy that in a heartbeat. NEVER EVER put that axe to a grinding wheel, the heat generated by the friction will turn the steel brittle which will bend or break off the cutting edges. You want to sharpen with a bastard file, get one bevel to 20 degrees, the other to 25. Then take a sharpening stone to hone the edge. Use the fatter edge for limbing branches and the thinner for felling and bucking. Any thinner and you risk damaging the edge. Let that be a lesson to anyone looking for an axe, you can pay 200 for a fancy german axe now or you can grab something old for 20 bucks that would be a million times better quality. The term, "they don't make em' like they used to", is an understatement when it comes to axes. Trust me, Iv'e used dozens of new brands from bottom of the line snow and neally, to the gransfors and they can't hold a candle to this axe, or any of the well built axes of the past. I envy you.
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Hi, Mountaineer first let me say thank u and this is exactly what i was looking for as i was reading in my magazine "THE NEW PIONEER" a great magazine take a look at it,anyways enough free plugs but i was reading your thread and you are rite that the PIONEER axe is a style that was actually made by COLLINS. This style was the common hardware type for there company. Well there you go again thank you for this informative thread.
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I have an axe head i found years ago that I decided to restore and rehandle. When I looked at it in the light, I can see belknap stamped into it. I've done some research but can't figure out a date for this. It's oval, with trade on the left, mark on the right, and belknap on top. It has bluegrass in the center. Any ideas how old?
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Does anyone know who makes this hatchet? I bought these at Cheaper than Dirt and they claim they are Swiss made for their military. There is only a mark on the forged head which is a shield with the letters CFL (see picture). They are very well made but I would like to know the manufacture.

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Does anyone know who makes this hatchet? I bought these at Cheaper than Dirt and they claim they are Swiss made for their military. There is only a mark on the forged head which is a shield with the letters CFL (see picture). They are very well made but I would like to know the manufacture.
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