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Old 03-21-2010, 03:39 PM
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i have a question what recoils more .270 0r 7.62X54r? I want to teach my friend how to shoot but I dont want to scare the crap out of him. so please help me.
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I'd imagine that it would entirely depend on the gun, one fires a heavier round a little slower and one fires a lighter round with higher SD a little faster, it seems like it would be relative.
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well one would be from a mosin 91/30 and the .270 would be from a savage arms 11fxp3
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i have a question what recoils more .270 0r 7.62X54r? I want to teach my friend how to shoot but I dont want to scare the crap out of him. so please help me.
Why not take both rifles out to the range, and find out prior to showing him how to shoot?

Or.....

A rifle chambered in 22lr? you could start him off here, then move him up into the other two, when he feels ready.

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I have both (M91/30 & a Remington 7400 in .270) and have shot them back to back. The Mosin feels like it kicks a little harder, but I'm not sure if it's real or perceived. The bottom line is they are both loud and both kick pretty hard, not the best rifle for first time shooters.
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Just tell him to grow a pair.
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main deal with the mosin not only it kicks hard but till you get use to it its alittle awkward to hold cause of length
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the real problem with the mosin is not only the kick but also till you get use to it unless you go prone the mosin is alittle awkward to hold due to its length
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The biggest issue I have seen with recoil is actually the loudness of the muzzle blast. An excellent means of reducing felt recoil is to use the best set of hearing protection you can.
Many people are more concerned with how loud the rifle is rather than how hard it "kicks".
The Mosin, for me, seems to have less kick than my .270 and I shoot an M44. A 7.62x54r cartridge has similar ballistics to a .30-.30 Win cartridge and, again for me, a similar amount of recoil. I have a Marlin 336 in .30-.30 Win and it doesn't kick at all but, I do notice my .270.
Best thing for a new shooter is to start with a small cartridge, someone mentioned using .22LR, which is a good idea then, let your friend use both of the larger calibers and have the best hearing protection you can get to reduce mzzle blast and perceived recoil. Do the Mosin first then the Savage.
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i have a question what recoils more .270 0r 7.62X54r? I want to teach my friend how to shoot but I dont want to scare the crap out of him. so please help me.
Neither has a real offensive recoil, but when I taught my wife to shoot a high powered rifle I reloaded my 270 win to lower pressures. The recoil of a 130 grain at 2600 f/s really allowed her to concentrate on the target picture and not to flinch.

I found that the 250 savage is also a good round for teaching folks. Very little recoil and very little sound.
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A good beginer centerfire caliber are 22 hornet, .222, .223, .243, 7mm08, .30-30, 38 special, 45 long colt, and stuff like that.

MY wife really loves 38 special. $15 for 50 rounds, almost too cheap to reload.
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.243 is probably the perfect teaching round. You can load it to a massive array of uses and even at the top end it has almost no kick.

I have a Winchester Mod70 in .243 and it is my son's favorite rifle.
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"Just tell him to grow a pair".

My exact thought....
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Perhaps you should get your friend a PSL?
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I agree, maybe you should start with something like a .22 so they dont develop bad habits right from the start.
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have him shoot both shells out of a shouldered 12 gauge side by side at the same time. either of the rounds will feel like nothing after that...
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Once you hit middle-age and 200 pounds, it's all the same. It's mainly just the noise. Use ear protection.
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I would have to agree with the 22lr. Starting off with to big of a kick could give him a bad first impression.
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Ammo threads on this board are like two farmers leaning over a fence and confabulating about heifers and the weather.
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