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Old 12-19-2016, 10:39 PM
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After the death of my father in law, my wife and I have been put in charge of his doomsday collection since we have the best basement for it temperature/humidity wise.

But some of it is very old, and there is a LOT of it.

Do glass products such as juice, apple sauce, pasta sauce, have the same (fairly) unlimited storage ability as canned goods? My plan was to keep all the canned food no matter the expiration date and eat all the glass and pop top (mostly soups) foods that have expired already and replace them with straight up sealed canned food.

But if it's all the same I'd just assume keep my father in law's stuff for obvious sentimental reasons. So this is a pop top soup question as well.
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After the death of my father in law, my wife and I have been put in charge of his doomsday collection since we have the best basement for it temperature/humidity wise.

But some of it is very old, and there is a LOT of it.

Do glass products such as juice, apple sauce, pasta sauce, have the same (fairly) unlimited storage ability as canned goods? My plan was to keep all the canned food no matter the expiration date and eat all the glass and pop top (mostly soups) foods that have expired already and replace them with straight up sealed canned food.

But if it's all the same I'd just assume keep my father in law's stuff for obvious sentimental reasons. So this is a pop top soup question as well.
Forget the sentimental reasons. Like life, food is transient in nature. Use it or lose it.

Not all factory jarred food is processed like proper pressure canned food is. Worse is the glass lets in light, which destroys food. Nothing is as secure as low acid factory metal pressure canned food is. Every other kind of "canning", even home pressure canned can't beat those low acid foods in metal cans. That said, some can still be rather long lasting, especially if the glass jarred food is high sugar or high acid.

Pop tops are a deliberate weakness added to the can and therefore a risk for the sake of convenience.

Use up any low acid/sugar jarred food and pop top cans in a timely manner.

Use up those juices too. They weren't pressure canned/jarred.

Another smart move is to rotate. If you had planned to eat a can of green beans then buy a new one from the store and go swap it out with a can out of storage.

Leave the sentimentality for photos, videos, and scrapbooks. If your FIL was smart about prepping food for emergencies then he would tell you to be smart about the same food after he died. Use it and replace it with new goods, especially items that are less secure.

He put up the food as a security to keep his family alive and healthy, not as a monument to remember him.
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thanks, I kind of figured that but I couldn't find any break down of glass vs canned online so I came here.
 
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I agree with IamZeke. Food pressure canned in glass jars will keep as well as food pressure canned in metal as long as you keep the jars completely away from light, bright or dim, constant or occasional. Otherwise, it will degrade faster. Acid foods kept away from light may even last better than acid food in cans because the glass, unlike metal, is impervious to acid. However, some things are just stuck in glass jars or only pasteurized, not pressure-sterilized in them, which isn't the same. My impression is that most of those things (as well as a lot of things that used to be canned in jars) come in plastic jars these days, though. Any food in a plastic container has a max shelf life of just a year or two.
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While some guys have stories of ancient c rats I have had some poor quality home canned goods ten years old. So I would open some and see what it looks like then taste. Toss if bad tasting, its not like food is hard to come by now. Even if OK how much longer are you going to keep it? Storage space is valuable.
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One thing I've discovered about jarred foods is that over time, the lids lose their seal. I've had this happen with red peppers, curry paste, etc.
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Yep, it's ok to reuse food jars from the market (after a thourough cleaning) as a temporary storage container IF you keep it refrigerated. The safeness of non-refrigerated storage is dependent on the lid and once you open a new food container/jar the lid is done. That's why you're supposed to use new lids on canning jars..
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