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This past year, I have done a lot of air travel for business. I took survival items, not just in the event of a plane crash, or even if stuck on the plane, but to have while (wherever it was I had to go).

You can't bring knives, so if I was going to be on the ground for more than a day or so, I'd find a walmart and buy a cheap folding blade just to have one. No big deal to leave the $2 knife behind.

I always travel with my carry-on containing at least a change of clothes and many of the items already noted. (water bottle filled inside security line, cordage, mylar blankets, $1 poncho, etc.)

I've also taken to carrying my "survival wallet" which contains:
a lighter
6' of paracord
coffee filters,
AquaPure tablets
a miniAltoids tin of basic meds, bandaids, packet of antiseptic, etc.
button compass,
coin-sized LED light
a mini ferro-rod
and an X-acto blade in a cardboard sleeve (no handle)
Granted, I'll never be baton-ing firewood with a little blade like that, but it's great for cutting cordage, or just getting into those impossible-to-open packs the $2 knives come in.

I've been through Security many times with my survival wallet. It goes on the X-ray belt, of course. Out of a dozen trips, not once did TSA want me to open it.

They gave me trouble over having a loose Altoid in my shirt pocket or that my belt was too metallic, but never the wallet.

There's more gear in the carry on bag, but the wallet is a nice always-on-me collection.

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SOG makes a nice little knife that looks like a key on your keychain. I usually have a tactical pen or a Zebra F 701 pen handy. Always some type of LED lamp. Something to read, headphones for the phone and a ball cap. International travel is a breeze. The rest goes in check in luggage. Domestic travel I agree with the post on shipping what you need to your destination. Been there and done that many times. Just let your hote a package will be delivered prior to checknin and you will be covered
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I always carry a cell phone and one softsided gym bag.

Gym bag contains: 1 each - under pants, t-shirt, socks, wrangler jeans; personal hygiene bag with all meds, tooth brush, disposable razor, daily hygiene stuff;
Maxpedition Fat boy with - light first aid kit, compass, 2 flashlights, extra AA, AAA batteries, extra phone battery, extra alergy meds, extra blood pressure meds, Yaesu Ft60r, extra battery for Ft60, ARRL Repeater guide, 550 cord, Tums, granola bars, leather gloves, mechanics gloves, box of Hot Tamale candy.

Every item has a history for why it's in there. Even though I am traveling from one home to another, extra clothes are with me because somehow I am always soaked with Coke Cola if I don't. Other stuff because of not wanting to be stuck in middle of nowhere without light, communication, and meds.
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I keep some items in carry on and a few more in checked baggage. On board kit includes primarily items for comfort in case of long airport delay, including a couple of mylar blankets and inflatable pillow, hygiene items, full change of clothes, food items and flashlights (and a Black diamond mini-lantern). I also often carry one or two golf balls (think about it). Checked bag kit adds stuff that you can't or don't need to carry on, like a pocket knife, butt pack, an MRE or two, etc. I buy a lighter upon arrival. Most of the check-bag items are listed above.
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Does anyone have any information on what is the longest it has ever taken to reach a crash site of a plane flying within the continental U.S.

Frankly I would say a survival kit for any flight inside the US (excluding maybe Alaska, Hawaii etc.) makes little sense. If the plane goes down in water nothing short of a life raft will help you much, if it goes down on dry land rescue would most likely come within hours.

I would say best option is to make sure to buy a bottle or two of water in the airport to take onboard, then stop worrying and hope for the best. Maybe one of those space blankets in your carry-on as a bonus if it is cold where you "land".

Flying is just one of those situations where you mostly have to assume the risk and hope the airline has done the precautions for you.
I walked 1 mile in the desert with a broken back to reach some dirt bike riders for my rescue. That was 3 hours after my helicopter crashed 3 miles North of Deer Valley airport 25 years ago. Only my wife and last student of the day were looking for me. No flight plan filed in local area of operation.

I became an Amateur Radio operator after that. I can now afford a cell phone but I can reach a repeater anywhere in the US. Not so with cell phone.

A commercial aircraft crash in the Rockies may take a full day for help to start arriving, with good weather.
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During a round trip to Thailand last summer (including 4 stops in China and 2 in Japan) I carried an old club card that had one corner and one edge sharpened. It stayed in my wallet and was neverc questioned customs or security in all 4 countries.

20 feet of paracord, small first aid kit (China asked about it one time and I told him it was in case I cut myself shaving and he waived me through) basic medications, small drinking purification straw, snack and the usual "stuff"
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I would travel more by train if they'd clean up the stations (many seem to be in rough ghetto neighborhoods) and lower the prices....Amtrak is too expensive.
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I guess my question is.....what do you need a survival kit on the plane for ?
What is the purpose? Plane crash on the open sea?
As far as I know, there is no open sea in the United States
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A few have mentioned ferro rods. Are these allowed while flying?
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As far as I know, there is no open sea in the United States
And as far as I know.... why would someone have to make a survival kit to carry onto an airliner
Putting a survival kit in your checked bag to have at your destination....that I can see....
That would be more helpful..you can pack it better....and include more useable things...like a knife.
Just my 2 cents and my experience.....and having flown on over 70 flights last year....in the US....and across ocean to my home outside the US.....
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A few have mentioned ferro rods. Are these allowed while flying?
They are allowed.....but I d rather use a bic to burn a loose string on my clothing.....works better
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As far as I know, there is no open sea in the United States
Try flying Houston to Miami.

Or just land at LAX sometime.
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SOG makes a nice little knife that looks like a key on your keychain.
Trying to get a key knife through TSA is a BAD BAD idea.
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As far as I know, there is no open sea in the United States
And as far as I know.... why would someone have to make a survival kit to carry onto an airliner
Putting a survival kit in your checked bag to have at your destination....that I can see....
That would be more helpful..you can pack it better....and include more useable things...like a knife.
Just my 2 cents and my experience.....and having flown on over 70 flights last year....in the US....and across ocean to my home outside the US.....
I never mentioned flying out to sea and I surely didn't say I was going to take it in my carry on. I asking what items are allowed on a plane flying across the U.S. thanks for your two cents.
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As far as I know, there is no open sea in the United States
Try flying Houston to Miami.

Or just land at LAX sometime.
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A few have mentioned ferro rods. Are these allowed while flying?
They are allowed.....but I d rather use a bic to burn a loose string on my clothing.....works better
thanks. Yeah definitely. But still good to know.
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I never mentioned flying out to sea and I surely didn't say I was going to take it in my carry on. I asking what items are allowed on a plane flying across the U.S. thanks for your two cents.
Well you do know there are a dozen websites out there to get that info from....including tsa.gov.
Asking random people on a forum.....especially those people who have zero experience flying can be hazardous to you.
One member even went as far to post a picture of a train ticket..... seems clueless
Your original post was pretty uninformative ..... didn't specify carry on or checked bag. I notice most people were responding with information on carry on bag.

Another 2 cents
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At the constant risk of being labeled a Troll for daring to not blindly following the majority, I also wonder about the practical uses of ferro rods on a freaking airplane??????
First aid kits, flashlight, water bottle, etc.
Definitely ! ! !
But what IS this weird obsession with building fires?????
Even in Mexico, virtually every airport I've been in has been in a fairly populated area. If I was in the Military & deploying to a FOB in some far off hades hole, then yeah, I could see "survival" gear being a good common sense idea, but really, is there anyone here who's flown commercially into or out of any location where you really need junk to make a fire????
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I never mentioned flying out to sea and I surely didn't say I was going to take it in my carry on. I asking what items are allowed on a plane flying across the U.S. thanks for your two cents.
Well you do know there are a dozen websites out there to get that info from....including tsa.gov.
Asking random people on a forum.....especially those people who have zero experience flying can be hazardous to you.
One member even went as far to post a picture of a train ticket..... seems clueless
Your original post was pretty uninformative ..... didn't specify carry on or checked bag. I notice most people were responding with information on carry on bag.

Another 2 cents
actually this is the perfect place to ask. The average joe won't be taking a ferro rod on a plane. And zero experience? I obviously found you who's boasting about all our flying miles.
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