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Old 01-21-2013, 05:18 PM
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Could be me. Describe the Guy. Heavy, glasses, brown hair? Name of John? If so, that's me. I frequently end up chasing down stuff that hasn't made it out to the floor.
Umm ... about 30ish? I kow you. Next time I will say Hi John! (I'm that lady who was the very first to buy a Shield 9 last April)
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Um, all of them.
Actually from my observations most box stores are not raising prices the shark tank is gunshow vendors and private sales like on armslist people thinking they can get 3k for a damn vulcan arms plastic lower type thing and auctions
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Actually from my observations most box stores are not raising prices the shark tank is gunshow vendors and private sales like on armslist people thinking they can get 3k for a damn vulcan arms plastic lower type thing and auctions
I almost feel bad for all of the suckers who are paying huge $$$$$ for terrible polymer AR lowers. They are going to be ****ed when their $$$$$ AR cracks after their second range trip.
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Gander Mountian has plenty of 9mm at $20.00 a box. That seems a big on the high side for me.
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Brownells just shipped my 10 pack of PMAGS that I back-ordered 2 weeks ago. Those guys are great haven't raised their prices a cent and honored the $125 price. They have a new customer for life, CTD can bite it. I will stay with a company through thick and thin if they will do the same for me.

Six months from now when things have hopefully settled down you better believe I will be buying ammo and anything else I need from Brownells even if they are a little bit more expensive.
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I almost feel bad for all of the suckers who are paying huge $$$$$ for terrible polymer AR lowers. They are going to be ****ed when their $$$$$ AR cracks after their second range trip.
That's what duck tape is for...
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I wanted to set up a thread to list companies that are charging higher prices to capitalize on recent events. This way, when the dust settles, we can make sure to avoid doing business with them. Just be sure that the company is in fact overcharging for the product.
For instance, www.surplusammo.com is charging between 49 and 52 bucks for 30 round P-mags, and their prices on 5.56 ammo have jumped by hundreds of dollars. I'll never do business with them again.
We may also wish to note the companies that are doing right by the customers, as in www.themakogroup.com and their E-lander 30 round AR mags. Superior mags for under 20 bucks. Plus, they have posted that they will not raise their prices, no matter what. Stand up folks deserve recognition, especially in such trying times.
Any others?
For what it's worth, gun stores are PAYING more for ammo. A guy whose family owns a gun store told me today that where they used to have a 50% to 100% markup on ammo, now they are paying close to what used to be retail themselves and so they've had to increase the prices. I tend to believe him since we were having a conversation in a completely unrelated setting and I can't imagine why he would mention it if it weren't true.

This is how capitalism is supposed to work. If there is a shortage, the price goes up until the product is accurately priced. Given the current situation, I can't imagine the prices NOT going up.
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Capitalism works on attacking 2A creating a artificial panic created by Government? Please tell me more.

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For what it's worth, gun stores are PAYING more for ammo. A guy whose family owns a gun store told me today that where they used to have a 50% to 100% markup on ammo, now they are paying close to what used to be retail themselves and so they've had to increase the prices. I tend to believe him since we were having a conversation in a completely unrelated setting and I can't imagine why he would mention it if it weren't true.

This is how capitalism is supposed to work. If there is a shortage, the price goes up until the product is accurately priced. Given the current situation, I can't imagine the prices NOT going up.
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Umm ... about 30ish? I kow you. Next time I will say Hi John! (I'm that lady who was the very first to buy a Shield 9 last April)
Yep, That's me. Care to guess how many mags we have in stock? or Ammunition? Its shocking.
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Capitalism works on attacking 2A creating a artificial panic created by Government? Please tell me more.
You are making this too complicated. Whatever the influences that brought it about, it all comes down to supply and demand. Basic economics tells us that when demand for a product outstrips the supply available, prices will go up.
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You can't get ****ed at the shop owner that jacks his prices. The guy might not sell another 30 round mag... ever. He has to make his $$$ while he can. You as the customer always have the choice not to buy.

Some retailers though are a little more far sighted, not raising prices dramatically and winning over new customers. They see it as a long term relationship being built with their customers. This is where CTD and others burn their bridges, and when supply begins to meet demand they are sitting in the cold.
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The seller can only charge what the buyer is willing to pay. . . . and then there is another idiot born every day.

I place my blame on the idiot, not the seller.
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Well, the O man clearly stated that under his plan electricity would by necessity skyrocket, so it would be wise to take note and invest in alternative energy. We know what his goals are more or less, so there are ways to cash in to this calamity without scalping people if you have the capital and testicular fortitude to start such a business in the current climate. Be the change you want to be. But don't blame others for wanting to make a few extra bucks when almost EVERYONE else is making a few extra. Vote with your wallet, but greed is human nature and everywhere these days. The vendors are no.doubt being charged more as well. You could argue that anything that we prep will get more valuable and that in itself is speculating. One day the shelves in the grocery stores will look like the gun store shelves. Let's all (myself included) try to keep that in mind as we scramble for the last magazine/pistol grip stock/flash hider/whatever.
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For what it's worth, gun stores are PAYING more for ammo. A guy whose family owns a gun store told me today that where they used to have a 50% to 100% markup on ammo, now they are paying close to what used to be retail themselves and so they've had to increase the prices. I tend to believe him since we were having a conversation in a completely unrelated setting and I can't imagine why he would mention it if it weren't true.

This is how capitalism is supposed to work. If there is a shortage, the price goes up until the product is accurately priced. Given the current situation, I can't imagine the prices NOT going up.
That's entirely correct. While everyone loves to blame the seller, the high prices go farther up the line.

And a reminder to folks, buyers set the market price, not sellers. Sellers can price their products at any price they wish. But it's the buyers that set the actual price that the item sells for. If they won't pay the price, the item doesn't sell until the prices are adjusted to the market price created by the buyers.
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Some retailers though are a little more far sighted, not raising prices dramatically and winning over new customers. They see it as a long term relationship being built with their customers. This is where CTD and others burn their bridges, and when supply begins to meet demand they are sitting in the cold.
The problem is that it really doesn't work like that and CTD knows it. Sure a handful of people will be royally ****ed off at them and never do business with them again. But the generally dump public will go right back to grazing peacefully, fat, dumb and happy, as soon as things calm down again. Their memory is short, and they'll keep buying from CTD and others like them. Look at how many people STILL support Botach, even after their years of horrible service and downright ripping people off. Companies know this, and irreputable ones like CTD and Botach depend on it.

It's the small guy who has to be careful not to alienate his smaller customer base. I'm one of those small guys, so I have to tread a narrow line constantly.
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LGS had stacks of 1000rd cases of Lake City 5.56, but for $900.00 each I had to pass. Settled for some Remington .223 instead, $9 for 20. I can't wait for all this to blow over so I can afford more ammo.
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