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So silencing everyone who has viewpoints that don't match your own? Gee, it's too bad our country doesn't have any laws that allow people to say what they think, no matter how stupid.
No one is silencing anyone. The left's tactics are very different that those of conservatives. Violence is not a way to get your "viewpoint" across. Blocking highways and committing arson doesn't convince someone that your way WILL be done. Preventing someone from speaking at a college (or anywhere else) if they don't have the same viewpoints is not how business is conducted in this country but that's how the liberals do business. Failing a student because they don't go in lockstep with a liberal teacher's viewpoints is not how our schools should be run. Violating someones constitutional rights is a crime but the liberals just see this as a tool to get their way. And the liberal mayors and police chiefs go right along with it in many cases.
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Preventing someone from speaking at a college (or anywhere else) if they don't have the same viewpoints is not how business is conducted in this country but that's how the liberals do business.
Just want to reply to this one, but that's how everyone tries to do business (at the higher echelons). Getting a venue which you know someone opposed to you would like to get, is something which has been done a lot. Changing plans, bribing, everything. It's basically a business practice, not a left/right practice. Noone needs to give someone else a platform for their free speech. They can't stop you from spreading your message, but don't need to facilitate it. I doubt there are many liberal speakers at a conservative meeting either .
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"NO ONE "had" the OH NG shoot anybody. The scared young Guardsmen were sent out to control a riot with NO riot training, NO less than lethal gear, not even batons. They were sent with rifles and live ammunition. They were scared crapless, in fear of their lives (for good reason), and reacted with what they had available."

That is the way the American Revolution started. The British were ordered not to shoot on the colonists, but the Redcoats were outnumbered by the demonstrators. The young soldiers got scared and fired their muskets. The rest is history.

Nonviolent protest is a Constitutional Right...even if we do not like the writing on the signs or the vileness of the chants. The term "hate speech", just like "terrorist" or "freedom fighter" just depends on your perspective. Let us not allow a few crazies at both extremes, drag us into a dark place that this country should not go.

Yiannopoulos and Sharpton both deserve their Right to speak. But both should be called out for their vileness.
Great perspective!

The 1stA right (an inalienable right) can not be over stated. We will always have agitators. Look at recent events at Standing rock...thousands of peaceful protestors, including a thousand veterans, with many more around the world defending water rights against corporate greed. When the gassing, the beatings and arrests weren't enough DAPL sent in their own agitators disguised as water protectors- armed and ready to create a violence situation.

Its time people came to the realization the the elites keep us purposely divided.
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"Now, to balance the scale, I'd like to talk about some things that bring us together, things that point out our similarities instead of our differences. 'Cause that's all you ever hear about in this country. It's our differences. That's all the media and the politicians are ever talking about--the things that separate us, things that make us different from one another. That's the way the ruling class operates in any society. They try to divide the rest of the people. They keep the lower and the middle classes fighting with each other so that they, the rich, can run off with all the mucking money! Fairly simple thing. Happens to work. You know? Anything different--that's what they're gonna talk about--race, religion, ethnic and national background, jobs, income, education, social status, sexuality, anything they can do to keep us fighting with each other, so that they can keep going to the bank! You know how I define the economic and social classes in this country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes. The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor are there just to scare the hit out of the middle class. Keep 'em showing up at those jobs."

During pre-revolution era, the thirteen colonies were divided on how to address the subjugation by a foreign King. It was only when they became united was American able to overcome and establish a Sovereign nation.

Economic deities seizing power through illusions. Created armies are justified class systems. God listens to warmongers prayers. tyranny is here, divide and conquer trying to isolate us.But your minds are chained to your machines and the strings dangling from your puppeteers hands turning you, twisting you into forms and confusions beyond your control

Your mind for a job your mind for a t.v. your mind for a hair dryer your mind for consumption.

With your atom bombs your material bombs your drug bombs your racial bombs your class bombs your sexist bombs your ageist bombs. Divide and Conquer.

America would be great again when you have communities of warriors (defending, not in a constant state of aggression driving a military industrial complex), teachers, farmers, artists, technicians, doctors working together for individual freedom and common good. Driving a community for better education for our youth, economic stability, health and welfare of every man, woman and child. In stead we have allowed ourselves to become a working slave class to a corporate Oligarchy where laws, politicians, armies, wars are bought and paid for by an elite force who's sole purpose to extract as much wealth at any cost.

War: the best business in the world. http://www.globalresearch.ca/blood-m...om-war/5438657
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Just want to reply to this one, but that's how everyone tries to do business (at the higher echelons). Getting a venue which you know someone opposed to you would like to get, is something which has been done a lot. Changing plans, bribing, everything. It's basically a business practice, not a left/right practice. Noone needs to give someone else a platform for their free speech. They can't stop you from spreading your message, but don't need to facilitate it. I doubt there are many liberal speakers at a conservative meeting either .
The left is more and more resorting to "protests" which evolve into riots and violence to silence conservatives. That is not just business, that is suppression.

In addition, recent events were scheduled conservatives at public universities and were prevented by protests. Violation of 1st Amendment rights.
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The left is more and more resorting to "protests" which evolve into riots and violence to silence conservatives. That is not just business, that is suppression.

In addition, recent events were scheduled conservatives at public universities and were prevented by protests. Violation of 1st Amendment rights.
That's not a violation, they can speak if they want if they book the venue. They can book other venues. Again, You have the right to share your opinion, but whether you get a platform at a certain place is purely that place's concern. Else you can get some crazy guys to just walk into congress "to be heard", "to have his right to free speech" etc, and really nothing will get done.

Now, i don't condone violence at all. Everyone who is identified or arrested at a protest, for violent action, destruction of property, whatever, should be punished as far as the law allows (and this goes for both sides).
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