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Old 12-22-2014, 05:09 AM
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I am having a new well dug this summer. The old one wasn't done properly so.... I am trying to find someone who has had experience with the dual system - hand pump and electric pump. I have only found one site that even says it can be done but I know there has to be a way other than two wells. Does anyone have experience with this type of option?

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I'm in the same situation, just had a new well drilled, but a well-house, and soon I will put in a submersible pump. However for backup I want a hand pump also, I've been looking at this one, they also sell a well seal with holes for both the 220 volt submersible and the hand pump. https://handywellpump.com/

I think Bison has the same thing as well..
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Check out www.simplepump.com
That is the one I plan to install in tandem with my electric pump.

Friends of our have one and it works decently.
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Check out the WaterBuck Pump. It's amazing. You might also consider a well bucket from Well WaterBoy.
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A friend of mine had a 'simple pump' system installed last year. It is set up for him to be able to use it both ways. When he uses it manually, the pumping action pressurizes the tank. The water system operates normally with him providing the energy to refill the tank when the pressure drops.
The pump is located right on top of the well cap.
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thank you thank you thank you!! not only for the great insight but helping me realize - i'm not nuts and this can be done
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It depends on where your water table is at. Here in Minnesota the water table is around 8' or 9' deep. My home has a 1 1/4" sandpoint well pipe driven down about 35'. The water level in the pipe is around 8' below the ground line. This is connected to the motor and pump with a pressure tank all behind an in-line ball check valve. I decided to tee into the well pipe before the check valve. I installed a hand pump on the other pipe from this main line. I included a ball type shut-off valve in both pipes at the tee. When I'm using the electric pump to supply water to the house the ball valve is shut off going to the hand pump. When I want to use the hand pump, the ball valve is shut off going to the electric pump and the power to the electric pump is shut off. It works great! Anyone living in the country should have this system set up and ready to go. All the clean fresh water you can drink from your own house well. It only works if the water table is not deeper than the hand pump can draw water up from. This should be set up in advance of any catastrophic power outage. You will need the pipes cut and threaded, valves and fittings purchased, and spare leather cups and seals purchased along with the hand pump purchased in advance.
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My well is about 520'. I don't see any one of those that will pump from that depth.
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My well is about 520'. I don't see any one of those that will pump from that depth.
Well bucket and a long chain.

That or buy some property at the bottom of the hill you live on.
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We have just had a 3000 gallon holding tank and a simple pump installed on our well. System is working great, though we haven't yet tried the simple pump. It ain't cheap, but worth every penny to not have to worry about not having water if shtf.
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Odell, it's not the depth of your well, it's your water level depth.
My well is 205' but the water level varies from 30 to 40 ft during the year. There are less expensive pumps than the simple pump system that are effective to 60 or so ft which would work for many. Well depths are more about creating a private reservoir.
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You should check out engineer775 on ytube. he is doing just what you are looking at. Plus he has solor/grid tie.
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Odell, it's not the depth of your well, it's your water level depth.
My well is 205' but the water level varies from 30 to 40 ft during the year. There are less expensive pumps than the simple pump system that are effective to 60 or so ft which would work for many. Well depths are more about creating a private reservoir.
^^ is the info you need!

Can be done with a weighted string measured from top of well casing to where the string is wet.

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