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Old 02-05-2017, 07:34 PM
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Well, the choices are fairly similiar ...
1) 2000 land cruiser, $7500 private seller, 220,000 miles

2) 1999 land cruiser, $7995 dealer, 180,000 miles...

Both in good condition... Which would you choose and why?

For the sake of argument, yes I have driven both and couldn't detect any problems (though admittedly I'm not a mechanic)
And they are both around the same distance away.
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Toyotas in general are solid vehicles. BUT, any used vehicle whether its private sale or dealership should be thoroughly inspected by a mechanic you trust. Just because your buddies land cruiser lasted a million miles doesnt mean yours will last even half that long. Vehicle maintenance is kinda like fingerprints. No 2 owners do it the same. Sparkplugs should be pulled and a compression test and leak down test should be done, ignition system should be checked. A sparkplug wire thats starting to get some high resistance cause fouling on the plug and carbon buildup on the piston and valves. Wheels should be pulled off and brakes checked. Exhaust leaks can be real dangerous. Undercarriage rust can be hidden by undercoating by a less than honest person. Differential, transfer case and axle bearings can be checked with an automotive stethoscope. Etc. Etc. Etc. If you have a regular mechanic/shop you deal with they will typically do an inspection and give you a repair estimate for free on a new vehicle purchase to keep you happy and coming back whether you buy the vehicle or not. Keep in mind that a complete vehicle inspection that finds no problems is still not a guarantee that the vehicle wont scatter the engine or break a tie rod 10 miles down the road.
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Without pictures and more details it's really hard to say which I would pick. It would depend on how well the previous owners took care of them. I'd also check the undercarriage for rust.

If I could afford one I'd get an Earthroamer but that's waaayyy out of my budget.

http://earthroamer.com/
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Yes definitely, I will be taking it to a shop before final purchase.
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Sorry, pushed send too soon. A test drive really doesnt tell you what you need to really know. Any 4x4 should definitely have a thorough inspection. You dont know if the previous owner was a wannabe weekend rock climber or baja racer. The newer cruisers (mid 80s up) are more comfortable, more room, and have more extras. If i was wanting a cruiser for a bov though id be looking at 60's and early 70's cruisers though.
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Yes!! I would love an earth roamer! Then again if I had the money for that I would have an underground bunker.
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Good advice but I have 2 kids and would rather have 4 doors.
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But roof raxks build character! Lol
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In general, I think I would pick the one year older one with 40k fewer miles but there are so many other factors (rust, has it spent its life as a southern car, car fax accident history) that there's no simple answer?
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Is the dealer selling that certified pre-owned? Out of those two, I might go for the one the dealer is selling, but for me, 150,000 miles is more than I would want for a bug out vehicle.

Then again, roughly how far are you bugging out?
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Well, the choices are fairly similiar ...
1) 2000 land cruiser, $7500 private seller, 220,000 miles

2) 1999 land cruiser, $7995 dealer, 180,000 miles...

Both in good condition... Which would you choose and why?

For the sake of argument, yes I have driven both and couldn't detect any problems (though admittedly I'm not a mechanic)
And they are both around the same distance away.
Neither are worth the price
Too many miles....too old.... too big of price tag
Have a trusted mechanic inspect....then make an offer of less $$
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Neither are worth the price
Too many miles....too old.... too big of price tag
Have a trusted mechanic inspect....then make an offer of less $$
Totally agree. Over-priced and under-"substanced". Too much for too little.
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Aren't those trucks, between 1999 and 2000, exactly the same?
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There are some differences in the two years, 99 had locker option I believe. 00 was the year asc and the traction stability control was introduced, 00 if I'm not mistaken had a stronger front diff. But place to look around or ask on those is ih8mud forum lot of cruiser guys there.

If it was choice on Mercedes I could help you a little more unimogs and g wagons are more my knowledge. But there's a reason you see alot of cruisers on places like expedition portal, they work and been proven. Good luck.
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Not to turn the thread or anything, but what has you set on the land cruiser? It it's something you actually like and you want to be a land cruiser owner, I understand that.
If space isn't critical I would check out the 4runners from around the same years, maybe even a year or two older.
They made a kabillion of them so parts are everywhere, and parts are cheaper too. They are really good off road vehicles in stock trim, but outfitted with some goodies they're awesome off road vehicles.
Their size lets them get into places you will never take a land cruiser, and there is a killer engine swap they're doing to those now.
People who want more power are pulling their Toyota engines and putting in the 4.3 vortec from the blazers and s10s. The 4.3 is nothing but a Chevy v8 with the last two cylinders cut off. Super durable, great power and they last a long time.
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I had a Land Cruiser. I won't ever do that again.
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2000 is probably better for dual purpose (on and offroad). The 2000 has activetrac and the 1999 has a real locker. For equivalent offroad capabilities, you'll have to add a front locker to the 1999 model. Also, you should have traction control in the 2000 model. I personally thing that traction control is invaluable to anyone that does any kind of off roading.

FYI, unless you can work on it yourself, you may want to consider another purchase. They can get to being a very expensive hobby and fast.
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Its not cause of the name.. I love land cruisers, I had one until a few weeks ago. (Wreck in just the right spot)
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Neither for that price with that many miles. Toyota stuff is good, but I would try to find one with lower miles.
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I've owned two Toyota 4x4's (one brand new PU and one used Land Cruiser) and both were lemons! The new 4x4 PU had to be towed to the dealer 3x and never was fixed right. Sold off both Toys and bought two used Chevy 4x4 V-8 PU's (1999 and 2003) with 70k-80k miles and never have had any problems with them. Like Trump says: "Buy American!"
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