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Old 12-28-2016, 07:45 PM
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I have found a 91 Dakota for sale it is a 2wd,reg cab,auto with a 3.9 motor and white want a darker color . The reverse is out so would it need a complete rebuild? Over all the truck looks good in the pic. It is not what i want but for the $ (want a full size late 80's to 91 Dodge 4wd or late 90,s to mid 2000's Dodge). For those who have a 2wd is it your BOV or close to it? What all have you done to it? thanks
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Pass - owned a 2wd pickup - won't make that mistake again.
Start with a 4x4 if you are going to add time and money to it.

What's your price range and nearest major city? Looking at 4x4, NC cities, and in the $500 to $3000 range. Here's some trucks I'd look at:

Nissan 4x4 pickup
http://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/5929707971.html

Toyota 4x4 pickup
http://onslow.craigslist.org/cto/5925686738.html

Jeep Cherokee
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/5934719478.html
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/5894749946.html

Dodge Ram Chargers
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/5924775960.html
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/5931559725.html

Bronco
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/5918984991.html
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Thanks but i want a Dodge and a truck. Already have a Dodge Durango 4wd
 
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2WD works fine... all the hype about 4WD is nothing but hype.
Most people who yack about 4WD .... need it only because they lack driving skills.
If the price is good. Get it
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The only time 2wd is decent is if you have some real aggressive tires with good tread. I drive a 2007 ram 1500 and it will go through some thick stuff in 2wd but as soon as it decides it doesn't have traction, the 4wd is invaluable. Personally I wouldn't go with it based on what you said because 1) it's 2wd and 2) it has some apparent issues with the transmission. Unless you know your way around those systems. To me as 2wd is strictly a pavement truck and even then if you run into ice you may need it.
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2WD works fine... all the hype about 4WD is nothing but hype.
Most people who yack about 4WD .... need it only because they lack driving skills.
If the price is good. Get it


I agree with you on that one to a point. I drive pickups and heavy trucks in pretty terrible conditions (power line right of ways that haven't been maintained since the 60s, ranch roads that turn to brown soup when it rains), and generally find 2wd sufficient for maybe 95% of the places I go. Especially with a locking rear differential.

4wd is nice to have, but hardly necessary with good tires and some skill/experience driving off of pavement.


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The only times I had to engage the transfer case in my army days was when I had to go pull on another truck that the driver got stuck.
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I agree with you on that one to a point. I drive pickups and heavy trucks in pretty terrible conditions (power line right of ways that haven't been maintained since the 60s, ranch roads that turn to brown soup when it rains), and generally find 2wd sufficient for maybe 95% of the places I go. Especially with a locking rear differential.

4wd is nice to have, but hardly necessary with good tires and some skill/experience driving off of pavement.


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Wonder how my grandfather got around on those 20s and 30s unpaved roads/trails in his 22hp Ford with 30x3" tires and 2 wheel drive? Yeah he had to back up a few hills... till he got a car with a fuel pump.
There are YouTube vids of early cars on 'roads' that modern offroad enthusiasts would think twice before trying.

(got to confess to a perverse craving for Nellybelle though)
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2WD is just fine.
Fine, that is, if you have nowhere to go, all day to get there, and nothing to haul.
And it gives someone with nothing to do and nowhere to go plenty of time to talk about their superior "driving skills" to those that snicker behind their back.
This is an old discussion between the "look where all we can go" crowd with 2wd and the "look where all you CAN'T go" crowd with the 4wd.
I have 4WD, myself. But not in every vehicle. So I can tell the difference without simply putting it down. I say make the best with what you got and not dump on others.
And the funny part is this: unless you have limited slip and/or lockers, 2WD is ONE wheel drive and 4WD is TWO wheel drive.


A '91? That's a 26 year old vehicle as it sits right now. So even if the transmission can be repaired without rebuilding, it will need rebuilding soon enough. Same with pretty much everything else from the engine to the heater core. If you're good with that, it's a great choice. I have cars from the 70s and 80s, myself. It's definitely as has been said: a choice based on the right price.

If you got 4WD covered, it's a great choice, too.

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I got a 92 for changing a starter on a saturn, never again. I put a cylinder and hydraulic pump on the bed, made custom hinges, 2 used mud tires on the back and used mine on my very wooded hilly rocky acreage, it lasted about 2 yrs, without the low range the transfer case gives you, the poor trans has a real struggle off road especially loaded, heat is an auto trannies worst enemy, speed is a suspensions worst enemy off road, usually 2wd needs speed to keep momentum off road, thus hitting bumps to harshly and killing the a arms, ball joints ect. I know from years as a mechanic, and off road enthusiasts
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Pretending 2WD is near as good as 4WD if "you know how to drive" is utter nonsense. I suspect anyone that makes such a statement never lived on a steep hill that gets ice or snowbound. Heck - even my driveway in the winter makes a 2WD useless. Front-wheel cars usually get stuck here and a RWD 2WD pickup is useless. UPS guy got his truck stuck here a few days ago. I guess I should of told him to learn how to drive?

A 2WD, rear-wheel-drive truck is one of the worst-traction vehicles made. Only exceptions I can think of are rigs like a rear-engine VW or Corvan - and they are hardly what I all real trucks. I will also note that in some conditions, a "Posi" rear can just make things worse. I will note that 4WD trucks when in 2WD seem to get worse traction then a 2WD truck. Balance of weight maybe?

I live on a very steep driveway and once on top, have about a mile of private road I have to plow myself (if I want to bother). Half the winter, there has yet to be a 2WD be able to get out of here not counting warm spells when all the ice melts. My 1998 AWD Grand Caravan has been one of the best vehicles on ice I have ever owned. It is rusting out and not sure what I can find to replace it with (without spending a fortune). I keep a ton of weight in the back bed of my F150 plow truck - and it still won't even try to make it out of here in 2WD.

I will note that if I lived somewhere with no steep climbs - I'd opt for some sort of front-wheel drive rig because they are easily found cheaper then an AWD or 4WD. I cannot imagine trying to get around in a high snow/ice area with a 2WD pickup. If I HAD to, it was have a lot of weight in the back. Just got an AWD Pontiac Vibe as a backup vehicle. It goes up the driveway OK but not if I stop on the way up and try to get going again. Spins like a top. My 4WD Tracker is just as bad (or good).

That all said - I was a "in the field or woods" mechanic for a John Deere forestry dealer for many years. My first service vehicle was a 1979 Ford (Mazda) Courier 2WD. I went some amazing places with that thing in deep woods and snow. But it was horribly overloaded with tools and equipment in back and that made a big difference. Carried chains with me and had to put them on to get out of some real bad spots. That 2WD Courier finally got replaced with an International Scout 4WD. It was likely the worse handing vehicle on the highway I ever drove (while severely overloaded) but that thing would almost go anywhere.
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When I was in my early 20s all I had was 2wheel drive ford's got by just fine. Now all I have are 4x4 trucks , probably used 4x4 maybe once a year. Now if your in country on gravel roads in winter you might have problems,if you drive sensible 2wd should be fine.Got to have good tires
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When I was in my early 20s all I had was 2wheel drive ford's got by just fine. Now all I have are 4x4 trucks , probably used 4x4 maybe once a year. Now if your in country on gravel roads in winter you might have problems,if you drive sensible 2wd should be fine.Got to have good tires
If you "got along just fine" with a 2WD then you did not live in a area with very steep hills and constant freezing over with ice or wind-drifting with snow. I suspect the majority of people in the USA live by town-maintained roads that get lots of sand and/or salt in winter conditions. Not all of us, however, live like that.

I lived on an un-maintained 32% grade dirt road in NY for 40 years. If it rained hard - a rear-wheel drive/2WD truck could not even get up in the summer. No chance in ice and snow. The town quit plowing it after losing a plow truck into the woods (big old 4WD Oshkosh).

Note I lived there full-time for 40 years. No mail delivery since the US Post Office refused to come there. If I had owned only a 2WD, in the winter there would be very few days I could drive home.
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I have had a 2 wheel drive 98 Dakota with 3.9 , not a bad daily driver but would never put it in spots it shouldn't be. I have also had 2 2000 extended cab dakotas 4x4s with the 318 in them. I would have no issue making the v8 4x4 my BOV . And I find them really easy to work on.
I'm looking for another one as my next daily driver!
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If you have sheet ice on a steep drive you ain't going up, or down, it in anything short fire breathing winch truck.
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I have had a 2 wheel drive 98 Dakota with 3.9 , not a bad daily driver but would never put it in spots it shouldn't be. I have also had 2 2000 extended cab dakotas 4x4s with the 318 in them. I would have no issue making the v8 4x4 my BOV . And I find them really easy to work on.
I'm looking for another one as my next daily driver!
Mine was very easy to work on
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If you have sheet ice on a steep drive you ain't going up, or down, it in anything short fire breathing winch truck.
JDH you are wrong. You are not going up the hill in ice but will go down whether it be forward,sideways, or backwards or maybe all 3.
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