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Old 12-21-2016, 07:05 PM
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would you rather have a 4x4 pickup with a few things for survival, or a cargo van full of stuff and camping gear?
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Why not a 4x4 van?

A Ford one ton van with a diesel engine and a Quigley or Sportsmobile 4x4 solid axle conversion is hell of a vehicle.

If you need bigger, International makes 4x4 medium duty trucks.

Truthfully, the choice will be dictated by your individual needs.
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Can a regular cargo van be fitted up to have 4x4 or awd? It dont have to be jacked up or have big tires but 4x4 sure would be handy for when you have go in small amount of mud or rough driveways.
 
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4x4.

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Anything can be done with enough time and money.

What are you referring to as a "cargo van"? An E-350, or a medium duty box truck like a U-Haul?
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some cargo vans are 4WD. Mercedes sells a bunch with it.
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A 4X4 CArgo van.
http://www.mercedes-benz-vans.ca/en/...-4x4/cargo-van
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-Ford-E-...m=132039379113

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-Ford-E-...m=172453284017

I'd rather have a diesel 4X4 van like the ones in the links.

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Living in reality, in my AO, my 1998 F150 4x4 fits my needs perfectly.
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Can a regular cargo van be fitted up to have 4x4 or awd? It dont have to be jacked up or have big tires but 4x4 sure would be handy for when you have go in small amount of mud or rough driveways.
Yes they can and are.

Search for a Quigley conversion.

Sportsmobile conversions I have never heard of, I know Quigley does them right, usually with factory parts.

http://www.quigley4x4.com/

Search Craigslist for "4x4 van" Lots of them out west....... all shapes years and prices.

Another option to consider is a retired 4X4 Ambulance.........
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As others have said you can have both.

However, I have a lifted 02 Tacoma that I don't plan on getting of...ever...I maintain it VERY well and in the event I do have mechanical problems, that is when I upgrade the vehicle. I will eventually have a highly custom off road toy.

If shtf, my truck will be there for me.
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Another option is Ujoint off-road. Search out a good diesel van, source the expensive parts, and use their kit to make your own. Still not cheap but less than paying Sportsmobile/Quigley costs.

http://ujointoffroad.com/

If you were rich... sky's the limit! Saw on one Sunday truck show the guy converted a brand new Nissan cargo van to 4x4. Don't want to think what that cost!!

https://www.powernationtv.com/episod...nv-heavy-cargo
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4X4 Crew cab PU....2- (1)gas and (1)diesel.....
Both out fitted for a BO.....
Fuel tanks always kept full.
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Or this:
http://cosprings.craigslist.org/rvs/5905647359.html

Buy it cheap, swap in a 12v Cummins and rock out!!



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4x4 bus conversions like mentioned above are typically called "Sportsmobiles" by those who have them and are doing it as a lifestyle, and yes, they are very expensive to get into. Ford, Chevy and other typical bus manufactures do not produce 4x4 versions of their busses, but there are a few outfits who specifically convert them. Quiggley was mentioned, Collins, and there's a couple others.

There have been many of these built over the years as school buses, ambulances, TV news vans, etc. if you are paying attention and have some patience you can find them. I've located 3 locally in the past 18 months, and I am SOOO glad I was patient as I just purchased the pictured rig this week.

This one is a 1983 Ford-Collins E350 4x4. Was originally constructed as a mountain school bus and there where actually many of these on the road through the Rockys over the past 30 years. This one is not a diesel (the only thing that would make it better in my opinion) but has a newly rebuilt 351w, drive train, exhaust. It has 36" military tires, and is pre-fuel injection and is a perfect foundation for an EMP proof rig. It'll run 80mph down the highway, and has a PTO T-case. Seller threw in a Ramsey 15000 lb winch which is worth about half of what I paid for the entire rig.

I'm so stoked and excited to build this rig into my vision of the perfect BOV.


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This rig is also for sale (cheap) locally, but would take someone willing, able, and equipped to put in a lot of elbow grease and some money.



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4x4 bus conversions like mentioned above are typically called "Sportsmobiles" by those who have them and are doing it as a lifestyle, and yes, they are very expensive to get into. Ford, Chevy and other typical bus manufactures do not produce 4x4 versions of their busses, but there are a few outfits who specifically convert them. Quiggley was mentioned, Collins, and there's a couple others.

There have been many of these built over the years as school buses, ambulances, TV news vans, etc. if you are paying attention and have some patience you can find them. I've located 3 locally in the past 18 months, and I am SOOO glad I was patient as I just purchased the pictured rig this week.

This one is a 1983 Ford-Collins E350 4x4. Was originally constructed as a mountain school bus and there where actually many of these on the road through the Rockys over the past 30 years. This one is not a diesel (the only thing that would make it better in my opinion) but has a newly rebuilt 351w, drive train, exhaust. It has 36" military tires, and is pre-fuel injection and is a perfect foundation for an EMP proof rig. It'll run 80mph down the highway, and has a PTO T-case. Seller threw in a Ramsey 15000 lb winch which is worth about half of what I paid for the entire rig.

I'm so stoked and excited to build this rig into my vision of the perfect BOV.


Major score....I'm jealous ....Congrats.
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^^Very cool.
I wish a PTO was an option for my Nissan Frontier. I'd put a brush hog on the back of it.
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Here's a 4x4 Ambulance with low miles:
http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/5850606298.html

I'm not a fan of Dually's though as the outside tire has cut it's own traction in mud and snow, instead of following in the tracks made by the front tires.

Toyota has a prototype Sienna Mini Van that is setup for off road:


The stock Sienna offers AWD.
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Major score....I'm jealous ....Congrats.
Yeah, I guess it's worth mentioning that these are much easier to find in AZ, NM, NV, then the rest of the country as vehicles just live longer out here. My point still stands though, if you set your standard, keep your nose to the internet grindstone, and have patience, these kind of trucks can be had, in a solid reliable shape, for a realistic budget.

My daily driver is a 2001 Tundra 4x4, and I'm not intending to argue the truck vs jeep vs van vs RV as best BOV debate with this. There are a lot of competing elements that make up a good BOV, I just think this particular bus/van/RV/?? has more of them than most, so I set out to find exactly this.

This thread just happened to catch me in my happy dance so I had to post it up here to some folks that would also appreciate it- my wife still can't quite grasp how lucky she is that I bought it.
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