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Old 11-11-2014, 04:54 AM
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You guys must have much smaller stumps than we do.

Pulling stumps with a tractor, much less a truck, is a favorite way stupid farmers break their tractors in half around here - I have seen more than one broken at either the three point hitch or at the union of the transmission to the engine.

We don't even use small bulldozers for pulling stumps - we push them if they are rotten or small, but it takes at least a D8 to push a stump, and generally we dig them out with an excavator instead of pulling or pushing them.

Pulling them out with a pickup? Not even going to try that on a stump from a 50 year old fir tree that is 2 to 3 foot across unless it has been dug up before hand.
Yep these were mostly smaller stumps (the biggest one maybe a foot) that had been partially dug up.
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They are essentially a Suzuki Sidekick with different badging.

The Suzuki Samurai is also a very popular off-road vehicle and probably at least slightly better too. The Geo/Sidekick has independent suspension the Sammy "solid" axles.

These are lightweight (right at 2000 pounds) - lighter even than the older Jeep CJs, short wheelbase with low horsepower. This combination makes them capable off-road without having enough HP to break things.

Weight does matter off-road all else being equal. You can get over obstacles easier and up slopes. If the COG is lower then you stand less chance of rolling it over too. If you keep it light, don't abuse it unnecessarily - don't add on a lot of heavy stuff - then such vehicles do well and are not as easy to break.

My dad had one (a Samurai IIRC) for a while that he used for hunting and he liked it. I think it was the only 4x4 he ever owned.
 
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I drove one of the very first Suzuki Lj10 in the USA.

We had an 1968 FJ40 at the time.

What a neat little 4x4 with an air-cooled 360cc Two Stroke engine.

It was so light two guys could pick it up.

But it lacked power that said in 4x4 low it could go just about anywhere at about 5 mph.

We lived a 5000ft so it already was down in HP even before we headed up the mountain.

Suzuki's are a good useful small 4x4.

With the VW diesel engine and Jeep axles they are a unstoppable off road machine.

The key is that they are so small and light.
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The biggest problem I can see with mine, is that I'm running out of room,.

So far, I have two large ammo boxes bolted to the floor in the back (one on each side) filled and a five gallon water can crossways between one of the boxes and the tailgate. I'm trying to set it up so that I have everything for at least a week at any given time no matter where I happen to be. Slow process but I'm getting there.
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In the 80s I had a Toyota 4x4 awesome little truck! The 90s a Bronco - also awesome but the worst gas mileage. In the several years back we had a Nissan Frontier great little truck. I wish we had any one of those now...

Opinions on the Chevy Colorado? Seems pretty nice at a decent price.
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I am not a fan of the Bronco IIs - they have weak manual transmissions that give up the ghost periodically - I owned an 86 and the first transmission went bad at about 50K, then the second went bad at 80K. I babied the second one because the transmission shop said they replaced transmissions in these all the time, but it still went bad after only 30K miles.

Conversely, I have a '92 Toyota Hilux 4x4, that has 280K miles on it with the original transmission. The clutch is starting to slip now. I am thinking I will put the MB OM617 diesel in it with a new clutch. Good little truck with somewhat underpowered 22re 4 cylinder, but gets only slightly better mileage than my one ton Dodge diesel. It does get around in the woods significantly better though due to its lighter weight.
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I have a 2000 nissan pathfinder 4x4. 200,000 miles and still going strong. Its under powered though and I am having trouble finding a travel trailer light enough for me to haul around the Co. Mountains
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mingo. The question is, what do you want to do with it when you are not bugging out?
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I leased a GMC Canyon 2007-2011 E-Cab and would have to give it high marks, except for a computer glitch that put it in the minimum power mode if used at slow speed, such as while travelling through the woods. I considered a Tacoma but they got worse gas mileage and my wife didn't like them, so I respected her opinion.

When replacing it with a purchase vehicle, I decided a full size PU was a better buy. I look around and I see way more full size trucks, like Silverados, Sierras and F-150s on the road.

I replaced it with a 5.2 L V-8 4WD 1500 ExCab and it gets 20-23 mpg, dropping down to 19 in the city when I am there. I use it for extensive mountaintop travel in my work that takes it on some really bad roads. I have a jeep too, but my BOV would be the Sierra because it carries more people and stuff and still gets better gas mileage. I would not part with either one.
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I have a 2009 Tahoe. A good locking 4x4 system, very reliable a good performance, fair mileage. Will start regardless of temperature. Easy to maintain and repair. Comfortable, great towing. Not as good in the tight woods as my son's Jeep but more reliable than a Jeep. I used to like jeeps but way too many problems.
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12 or 24 valve 2nd gen or 3rd gen dodge CUMMINS. Period. Multiple fuel sources, more then enough power/ torque to load, haul, push pull anything your heart desires. Like all those vehicles blocking the route to your BOL, just push through em. Think about every household that burns heating oil. Thats the exact same thing as diesel fuel at the pump. So thats many hundreds of gallons of readily available fuel when theres no one left to occupy those houses. And I can get easy 20mpg with my 8000lb truck that can tow around 26,000lbs and haul close to 6000lbs in the bed. Just my opinion though.
Definitely a 12 valve. A ppump is far superior to a vp44 or a cp3 even. Waaaayyy less to go wrong with a 12 valve aso
Old 01-18-2015, 05:36 PM
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Opinions on the Chevy Colorado? Seems pretty nice at a decent price.
The new ones say 26 mpg?

The 2010 Colorado was rated 25 mpg freeway with the 4 cyl. 2wd versions.

The 4 cylinder, with 4X4, got 23, and then they got 20 mpg out of the 327/5.3 L 4X4.

The 5 cylinder only got 23 as well, in 2 or 4 WD versions.

Everyone I know that had one wished they had not gotten the 5 cylinder. But I live in farming ranch country, surrounded by mountains and 9000 foot passes.

Down in town, I think they may be better appreciated.

I'm not that impressed with the small V-6 or 5 cylinder American pickups in general, they seem under powered, and over thirsty.

I'd go 5.3 L in the Colorado/Canyon size. The trade off in mileage vs wear and tear and ability would be everything to me.
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Between a bigger truck and a smaller truck, i would go smaller, for most of what I, personally, would need something like a luv truck is just fine. I would go with an luv because of the fact that you can stick a V8 in the fender wells pretty easy, the aftermarket is huge, original parts are as common as mud, and they can be abused and still run just fine.

And before anyone says anything, yuh-huh you can put a V8 into a luv! Heres a linkhttp://www.luvtruck.com/pdf/EngSwap.pdf

I like the first gen '72-'80 luvs stylistically, but if you cant do a disc brake swap yourself, go post '74 for the front disc brakes.
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I had a '78 Luv, in 1991, it had about 120K miles on it.
The engine was tight, not a drop of oil anywhere in the engine compartment.
Some idiot T- boned me.

They were NOT strong, or fast, or quick, got 20 mpg on a good day, but they were good little trucks.
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I would rather eat worms than drive a Suzuki with a motorcycle engine.
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You've obviously never driven a Suzuki, car or bike.
Old 01-19-2015, 04:42 PM
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I've driven a Geo Trakker which was a suzuki. Its a nice off road vehicle but not safe to be on the road with other people.
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Renix Cherokee ftw.
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I've driven a Geo Trakker which was a suzuki. Its a nice off road vehicle but not safe to be on the road with other people.
I have no problem with my Geo Tracker BOV, it does everything I need it to do, but no, I won't drive it on the Interstate. Maybe a trip down the hill to the bigger town in the area, but not often.

When it comes to bugging out, I would have no problem hitting the back roads to a BOL within 100 miles.
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