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Pence needs to watch out.



https://twitter.com/JulianAssange
But why would she be worried about a guy that "is so easily baited by a tweet"? Surely he got lucky the first time around... no way there could be a repeat.... right?
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I was already sharpening my Pence in 2020 voting pencil but after hearing him quote Trump and Ryan's lies about RINO Care, he's lost my trust and my vote. I'll vote for the Democrat.
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I was already sharpening my Pence in 2020 voting pencil but after hearing him quote Trump and Ryan's lies about RINO Care, he's lost my trust and my vote. I'll vote for the Democrat.
That is the job of a vice president, and he does it well.
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That is the job of a vice president, and he does it well.
Where does it say that's the job of the VP? His only job is to wait for something to happen to the President and to be President of the Senate. Nothing says that he should be the mouthpiece of, or a puppet for, the President.

When Trump is out, does Pence want to run on his own record or on Trump's record? Well, now it doesn't matter which he runs on, he won't get my vote.
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Where does it say that's the job of the VP? His only job is to wait for something to happen to the President and to be President of the Senate. Nothing says that he should be the mouthpiece of, or a puppet for, the President.

When Trump is out, does Pence want to run on his own record or on Trump's record? Well, now it doesn't matter which he runs on, he won't get my vote.
In the beginning of our country, the guy who got the most votes in the electoral college was POTUS, the guy who ran second got to be VPOTUS. That of course led to major backbiting, as you might expect. A political disaster zone.

I can't remember when that changed, but it was fairly early. Now POTUS and VPOTUS are the same party, and the VP's job requires that he support the President. Not having a lot else to do, except preside over the Senate. Doesn't have to be written into the Constitution.
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In the beginning of our country, the guy who got the most votes in the electoral college was POTUS, the guy who ran second got to be VPOTUS. That of course led to major backbiting, as you might expect. A political disaster zone.

I can't remember when that changed, but it was fairly early. Now POTUS and VPOTUS are the same party, and the VP's job requires that he support the President. Not having a lot else to do, except preside over the Senate. Doesn't have to be written into the Constitution.
It changed in 1804 with the passing of the 12th Amendment.
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Where does it say that's the job of the VP? His only job is to wait for something to happen to the President and to be President of the Senate. Nothing says that he should be the mouthpiece of, or a puppet for, the President.

When Trump is out, does Pence want to run on his own record or on Trump's record? Well, now it doesn't matter which he runs on, he won't get my vote.
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Laptop with Clinton emails tied to Pizzagate is stolen from Secret Service.

Why the Secret Service would possess the laptop is beyong me though.

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"stolen"

What was the Secret Service doing with it, anyway?
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Another leak installment "CIA Dark Matter"

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Looks like Wikileaks is no safer under Trump than it would have been with Clinton.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...inst-wikileaks
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Great perspective
I've always liked Lionel's perspective.
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Looks like Wikileaks is no safer under Trump than it would have been with Clinton.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...inst-wikileaks
I don't understand it. Trump said he LOVED Wikileaks during the campaign. Now his AG wants to prosecute him for high crimes? Espianage? Death penalty?

Is Trump calling the shots in his administration or the deep state?
Assange is a reporter. I thought the free press was a pillar of our government.
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I don't understand it. Trump said he LOVED Wikileaks during the campaign. Now his AG wants to prosecute him for high crimes? Espianage? Death penalty?

Is Trump calling the shots in his administration or the deep state?
Assange is a reporter. I thought the free press was a pillar of our government.

The deep state pwned Trump the day he was born, and they are pwning the US and the rest of the world.

Trump is their newest puppet. He can't stop them. They can't even stop themselves.

A reset is needed HUUUUUUGELY.
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I hope his re-election song isn't, "I fought the swamp, and the swamp won"
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I don't understand it. Trump said he LOVED Wikileaks during the campaign. Now his AG wants to prosecute him for high crimes? Espianage? Death penalty?

Is Trump calling the shots in his administration or the deep state?
Assange is a reporter. I thought the free press was a pillar of our government.
He only loved it as the content was stacked against Clinton but he is well aware the tide is turning and Wikileaks will discredit the functions of nation he is now President of.
Jeff Sessions has had a bee in bonnet about Wikileaks and Julian for a good while and it's no surprise he is willing and eager to go after them.
Wikileaks is not exactly an American news organisation so any AG is in a no harm no foul position in regards to the Constitution.
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We thought Assange was in safe hands with Teump. What's happening there???
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He only loved it as the content was stacked against Clinton but he is well aware the tide is turning and Wikileaks will discredit the functions of nation he is now President of.
Jeff Sessions has had a bee in bonnet about Wikileaks and Julian for a good while and it's no surprise he is willing and eager to go after them.
Wikileaks is not exactly an American news organisation so any AG is in a no harm no foul position in regards to the Constitution.
until President Trump kills off the Deep State, they will pursue their same objectives. Topple Syria, Kill Assange, Start lots of wars, etc.

Whether he feels he can prevail against the deep state is the question in my mind, or will he give up because he doesn't want to get the JFK treatment?
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