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Old 02-08-2017, 04:50 AM
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You can ask a hundred people this question and the answers would vary with each one.

A lot of it depends on your location, what's actually going on, what you know how to do (Cabin building, shelter construction, reloading ammo, etc.. etc..)

What kind of vehicle do you plan to use?

Do you need any medications and do you have a good supply of them already?

Do you have a spouse, kids?? If you have dogs, bring them along.

Search this forum and you'll find a LOT of questions and responses to questions just like this. Read as many as you can. Some of it might interest you, some of it not.

Whatever you do, practice using whatever you're taking with you. It makes no sense to carry an RPG if you've never fired one.. Just an example..
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You can ask a hundred people this question and the answers would vary with each one.

A lot of it depends on your location, what's actually going on, what you know how to do (Cabin building, shelter construction, reloading ammo, etc.. etc..)

What kind of vehicle do you plan to use?

Do you need any medications and do you have a good supply of them already?

Do you have a spouse, kids?? If you have dogs, bring them along.

Search this forum and you'll find a LOT of questions and responses to questions just like this. Read as many as you can. Some of it might interest you, some of it not.

Whatever you do, practice using whatever you're taking with you. It makes no sense to carry an RPG if you've never fired one.. Just an example..

Heh....I like your location: "between a rock and a hard place".

With respect to your post, though, I'm going to disagree a bit. Conventional wisdom defines "Every Day Carry" (EDC) as the firearm(s) you carry on your person; the manner in which you carry it/them; the tools you carry on your person (knife, multi-tool, flashlight, cell phone, whatever); and other items that you habitually carry *on your person* (as opposed to in the trunk of your car, stashed in your locker at work, or some other non-on-body location).

For example, I generally carry a Sig P220, 2 spare mags, a Buck sheath knife, a Gerber multi-tool, and my cell phone. And my truck keys.

The only "must have item" I carry is a phillips head screwdriver on the Gerber multi-tool. I am flat-out amazed at how often it turns out that I need a phillips head screwdriver.

I'm thinking this is what FerFal was referring to, however, as always - I could be mistaken.

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I am flat-out amazed at how often it turns out that I need a phillips head screwdriver.
I also carry a Sig. An older P229 with one spare mag although both are the 14 round Mec-Gars.

I love the multi tools. I have a leatherman and I'm also amazed at how useful it is and how I only seem to need it when I have it. Haha.
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Heh....I like your location: "between a rock and a hard place".

With respect to your post, though, I'm going to disagree a bit. Conventional wisdom defines "Every Day Carry" (EDC) as the firearm(s) you carry on your person; the manner in which you carry it/them; the tools you carry on your person (knife, multi-tool, flashlight, cell phone, whatever); and other items that you habitually carry *on your person* (as opposed to in the trunk of your car, stashed in your locker at work, or some other non-on-body location).

For example, I generally carry a Sig P220, 2 spare mags, a Buck sheath knife, a Gerber multi-tool, and my cell phone. And my truck keys.

The only "must have item" I carry is a phillips head screwdriver on the Gerber multi-tool. I am flat-out amazed at how often it turns out that I need a phillips head screwdriver.

I'm thinking this is what FerFal was referring to, however, as alwa ys - I could be mistaken.

Not mistaken.
While it is true that lifestyle, climate and location dictates your edc to a great degree, I found out that the basic edc I have has worked for me for almost a couple decades now, living in three countries with very different climates and a bunch of other countries I've traveled to.
Wallet, phone, key chain (with tools) wileyx sunglasses, solar watch, folder, multitool, flashlight, lighter and at times Glock has been of great use over the years, with different models and upgrades being made as time went by of course.
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...lifestyle, climate and location dictates your edc to a great degree...
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I have several impacts on EDC: work, recreation and specific activity. By and large, I do strive for a "core EDC" where I build based on activity, location and of course, local restrictions.

My core EDC is almost always:

Locking folding knife
Multitool (even if key-chain sized)
LED light
Burts Bees chap stick

At work, my EDC is actually pretty robust based on the room available when wearing a uniform. Of course, I can carry when in combat, but not at home in garrison







Now, when not in uniform and when I'm not on a Federal Installation, I can carry a handgun:









If you bump up the EDC to include a fanny pack, shoulder bag or even a small pack you can really maximize your versatility. The challenge is that these are really "everyday" carry items and are often what I would consider "mission specific":





I typically have the "core" for every activity from backpacking to combat, but I will often adjust based on actual occupation or activity and sometimes I do get a larger EDC bag such as an HPG Kit Bag (used for backpacking) or my work EDC bag, which is a backpack.

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my usual, every day. pistol varies.and I have different bags packed for the unusual.....
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this is the overloaded Hill people bag. sticking in there every day. not w whimper, and more important , not a single rip,tear or busted seam. cant think of anything else i could on the front of the heavy recon to make it tear/break. going to strip it back to normal shortly.
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Wow, it must be EDSC - Every Day SIG Carry - around here, and I'm in the club too.

- SIG P239 (Cardini Leather IWB holster)
- CRKT F1000 flashlight
- Leatherman Wingman multitool
- Kershaw RJI folding knife (dedicated defensive knife) or "work carry" knife (rotates)

Anything else is in my GHB.
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I have several impacts on EDC: work, recreation and specific activity. By and large, I do strive for a "core EDC" where I build based on activity, location and of course, local restrictions.

My core EDC is almost always:

Locking folding knife
Multitool (even if key-chain sized)
LED light
Burts Bees chap stick

At work, my EDC is actually pretty robust based on the room available when wearing a uniform. Of course, I can carry when in combat, but not at home in garrison







Now, when not in uniform and when I'm not on a Federal Installation, I can carry a handgun:









If you bump up the EDC to include a fanny pack, shoulder bag or even a small pack you can really maximize your versatility. The challenge is that these are really "everyday" carry items and are often what I would consider "mission specific":





I typically have the "core" for every activity from backpacking to combat, but I will often adjust based on actual occupation or activity and sometimes I do get a larger EDC bag such as an HPG Kit Bag (used for backpacking) or my work EDC bag, which is a backpack.

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Thats a nice kit you have there, very complete.
The fanny pack. I used to have one when backpacking, the idea was keeping a basic kit with me when carrying a bigger backpack. If I had to leave it behind for whatever reason, move faster, lost it, etc. at least I had the fanny pack with me. After that I integrated it as part of my EDC for some time. I'll try finding the pics to see what I had in there.
Later on I just felt a small messenger bag or musette bag was even more practical and about as much trouble to carry around. The satchel is also a great way to go. For years I used an original MKVI gas mask (the one Indiana Jones has) that thing was awesome, very practical too. Still use it from time to time.
These days its either a shoulder bag or small backpack.
ETA ah! found some, pics must be about 10 years old or so.

That phone..

and guns, man, such terrible pics


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You guys claim these are for Advanced Urban EDC, but there is a MAJOR omission in ALL kits pictured.

NO SILCOCK KEY! You fail.

http://www.backwoodsengineer.com/201...-water-in.html
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My EDC (what I actually have on my person/in my pockets) is relatively light..

Keys
Wallet with ID and CC
pocket knife (2.75" folder)
Sometimes a small flash light
Sometimes a CCW (either a 1911 or BHP)
One or two spare magazines when carrying CCW
Generally $10.00 - $20.00 cash

Everything else is in an emergency bag in the truck
Poncho
Poncho liner
1 liter water bottle
Sometimes an extra 6 pk of water
1/2 dozen energy bars
Change of clothes (t-shirt, underwear, socks)
3 1/2" folding knife
6" fixed blade knife
Flashlight
Matches
Magnesium flint
Compass
Folding e-tool
100' 550 para cord
Walking shoes
Small first aid kit

Multi-function tool - soon to be added
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You guys claim these are for Advanced Urban EDC, but there is a MAJOR omission in ALL kits pictured.

NO SILCOCK KEY! You fail.

http://www.backwoodsengineer.com/201...-water-in.html
I have one, just not as part of my EDC. It's actually a good item to have regardless of your area. Being this is aimed at "urban", my goal would be to get as far away as fast as I can...

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Due to being a subject of the peoples republic of Maryland my choices are limited in regards to what I am able to carry. I tend to carry items that are very value based due to the ability of having it taken off of me if I happen to have to leave something with security or have to deal with the police in any capacity.

On my person usually 24/7

1 2AAA Bushnell 100 lumens light . $20.00 at Wally world really tough and it's not going to break my heart if it gets confiscated.

2. Gerber Suspension . Decient Multi-Tool for the price and at 20 bucks it is great for the price. While not a great Multi-Tool it is at $20 a steal. Picked it up at Home Depot.

3. Blaze orange Bic full sized lighter. I no longer smoke but I always seem to have a lighter on me. I have used it to more then light cigarettes and having fire always a good idea.

4. S&W tactical pen. Picked one up for about $25 at the local surplus store and as a pen it is ok but the ability to use it defensively is a plus.

5. CRKT Kasper/Kershaw large folder. This knife while it is hard to sharpen in the field does hold an edge like no bodies business. At $25 at the local surplus it is a value purchase that is almost offensive in nature if it needed to be.

6. Maxpedition micro wallet. I picked mine up a few years ago for around $10 on sale they seem to be around $15 to $20 depending on where you shop. Great if you only want to carry a few things like your CHP, and other credentials .

On my key ring I carry a handcuff key and a 10 gb USB with some important information like my phone number contacts and scans of my license, security guard credentials and CCW.

My cell phone which is my first line of escape out of any problem.
Optional things I carry that might not be applicable to your situation .

I carry a Sigelei Fuchai 213W box mod with a nautilus evo tank on it for vaping. I also carry a 60ml tank of e-juice .

Outside of that there is not much more that is needed in an urban environment in normal times.
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My EDC is very light as I am urban carry.

1.) Victorinox SAK - usually an Explorer model but I do switch it up just to try others but the Explorer is my main one.
2.) Light - small Olight that I keep my house key on.
3.) Recylced Firefighter front pocket wallet - I haven't carried a back wallet in many, many years but just recently bought this one to tryout. Works great!
4.) Phone.


Now this will change if I am going somewhere specific, like if I go hiking/biking I will also put a Leatherman MT in my backpack that I take with me.
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Some notes on my EDC:
I have a few tiers of EDC
- On Body
-Backpack
-in Car
I work 2 hours from my house.
Due to moving to Mass I do not have my permit yet

On Body EDC-
Citizen Eco Drive Watch
Iphone 7 PLus with Mophie Battery Case ( Case is always charged)
Benchmade Barrage s30V steel.
Leatherman Wave with bitkit and extender ( also has pocket clip)
Nitecore MH10 Rechargeable Flashlight
Bic Lighter
Write in the rain pad
Write in the rain pen ( Or other metal pen)
Chapstick
Powerbeats 3 Wireless or other bluetooth headphones
Keys (below is what is on my keys)
- Niteize Locking Caribiner (75lb)
- Car keys ( mine and my Girlfriends)
-House keys
-Inside and Beyond Ferro Rod
-Nitecore Tube
-Gerber Dime
-Handcuff Key
-TrueUtility Micro USB cord.

Wallet (Below is what i keep in my Wallet) - Vanquest
-ID
-8GB usb Stick ( it is like a credit card)
- Credit Card Knife
-Frezno Lense
-4x tinderquick
-$50 (assorted)
- readyman escape card
- Credit cards ect

I would like to note that this has been my EDC for the better part of 2 years, minus the removal of a firearm due to moving states. I use everything regularly and while it seems like a lot, it really fits well.


Some notes on this pack, I designed the load out to be a combination of EDC/Get home bag. I have taken it out to test the gear on a few over nighters.
Backpack-Vanquest Trident 20 Wolf Grey
Gloves - Mechanic style
Diamond sharpening Rod
Sawyer Mini with plunger straw and bag
Browning Tactical pen
Sharpie
Moleskin notebook
55Gal 3Mil Trashbag
3 Normal house trashbags
bug spray
Sunscreen
Bandanna
electric bic
Normal bic
Gorilla tape wrapped around a CC
Camilus Les Stroud fixed blade with fire steel, And custom Shealth
Dry bag for Cell
5 Hour enegery
2x Nature valley bars
SAS Survival guide
SOL emergency Bivy
Walmart 5x7 tarp
Plano Survival Kit ( I can go over this if desired)
Adventure medical Trama Kit
Adventure Medical .05 Med kit
Quick Cloth
Mil Tuniquet
Wall Brick and Micro USB cable
10000MAH batterypack
Compass
Fingernail clippers
mechincal pencil
leatherman Sidekick
Stanley metal Waterbottle
1 bottle vitamin water ( energy)

( I am at work and might be missing a few items but that is the idea)

Car -
2016 Ford Fiesta 5 speed
Coat
Hat/gloves
Change of pants/shirt/boxers/socks
Compact shovel
Fire kit
Adventure medical Mountain med kit
Down blanket
Wool Blanket
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EDC is money, Gerber multi tool, ruger sr9c, spare mag, pocket knife. That is on my person, rest is in a GHB at my desk, or in my car. If those few things don't get me out of the store I am in it is truly a bad day
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Essentials:
knife
fire
cordage
CCL/Pistol
multitool
flashlight
money/wallet
phone
...but I carry much more

I also have multiple "tiers" depending on my mode of travel/destination/purpose.

Here is a start but by no means all-inclusive.

I have a bit of a hobby assembling kits and packs.

My normal EDC below,
I also carry get home bag and food/water in my car as I have a commute.




Wife and I his/hers conceal carry...mine's the bigger one :]



Contents of pack, always fluctuating
Includes some minor first aid stuff, pain relievers, water purification tablets, multiple forms of cordage and fire making, various tapes, writing utensils, and much more.





I now carry the orange folder "safety" knife with the belt cutter/glass breaker that was in my mini pack in my pocket as opposed to the black folder in the first picture as common sense dictates I might need quicker access to "safety knife" with glass breaker. I cross the Mississippi every day.

I recommend everyone who spends time in vehicles to have a belt cutter/glass breaker.


This thing comes in handy more than I thought it would....
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As an aside, before my wife deployed back a few years back, I bought her a "tactical pen" that came packaged with the same knife you have there. I gave the knife to a friend of mine, and he used it to fight off a mugger who first sprayed him with pepper spray and then punched him in the face before demanding his wallet. Well, he managed to back up, get the knife out, and when the mugger kept coming, got in several good cuts before the guy ran. The cops found the perp later at a local hospital, trying to get treated for some mysterious "accidental" cuts to the hands and arms that sure looked an awful lot like knife wounds.

EDC, indeed.
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EDC, hmmm

It is hard to say what would be the best solution given the circumstances you may be or could be faced with..

As far as knives go I tend to stay away from flick knives given they are a 1-2 use weapon I tend to stick eother with a Bowie as as primary or a small though heavy knife..

A good multi tool

Food large liunch box full of some form of protein bar..

Water on average a human consumes 5-6 litres a day and when above 30 cel that can double to triple

A full med kit

A spare set of clothing

A camping cutlery set

Cb/ham radio
Cellphone and sat phone

Guns what ever you can get away with legally though with no law present, high capacity mags and clips

For vehicles a complete tool chest suitable for vehicle repair and enough fuel to circumnavigate the country twice..
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