Can liberals be survivalists / preppers?

[dtwn92]

Originally Posted by Browning 35

Yeah, that was really my only point. It's not like we're taking a poll.

At any rate to tie it in with the OP it just seems like liberals are more likely to be the victims of crime because they put a little too much faith in people, they don't recognize reality and because some of them casually use drugs. Not to mention the fact that many have an issue with the idea of defending themselves. Even if they don't have an issue with it they usually aren't very well equipped to deal with violence.

If they're more likely to do this under normal circumstances think about what they'd be like in the aftermath of a disaster or during civil unrest.

If someone is more likely to put themselves into a bad situation then they're more likely to end up in a situation where they might be hurt or killed. Not exactly rocket science.

I really have to agree with this as well. Solid post!

[Hermit Jax]

Originally Posted by REPR

Survivalists - No
Preppers - Yes, technically, but only as long as it takes for someone to murder them for their stockpiles of food or other possessions.

Liberals, in the context of Obama's America, by in large abhor firearms and learning most skills that it would take to survive in a truly SHTF scenario. What good is a basement full of freezedried food if the first thug who notices you are not starving decides to break into your house and kill you?

So basically liberals that 'prep' are just prepping supplies for another person to kill them for. The ant and the grasshopper......and the ant is a pathetic pacifist while the grasshopper has a gun.

UH NOPE. Plenty of socially liberal folks out there with CCW permits and shotguns by the mantle. The whole gun control thing is a darling of a small cadre of hardcore insiders. Anyone who assumes that their socially liberal neighbors lack weaponry and skills are in for a rude shock if they try to take their stuff.

Just because someone is on the liberal side of the slider on some social issues doesn't mean they are getting a handout or are unprepared and expect the government to bail them out. Just because someone is ob the conservative side on a social issue doesn't mean that they are a fine upstanding citizen with usable skills refusing the government teat. Social views and responsible preparedness are two different things.

[Hermit Jax]

Originally Posted by Browning 35

Stickers on their car, t-shirts ('Change' w/a pic of Obama, 'Darwin is my homeboy', pot leaf etc), the make of their car, phrases of speech and so forth are usually pretty good indicators of whether the pt is in fact a liberal.

Most conservatives also don't go to violent anti-whitey hating rap concerts and wonder why they got mobbed, buy dope in the hood at 2am or give homeless drug addicts money to work around their home and then wonder why they got beat up/ripped off (while throwing out a couple excuses for the douchebag who ripped them off while giving the police report).

Those folks aren't liberals per se. The Obama sticker says they preferred Obama to Romney (most non-whites and non-males did). The Darwin sticker basically says they are for the separation of church and state but nothing about their conservatism or liberalism other than that one issue. The potleaf sticker says they are doped up 20 to 40 somethings and may well not really care either way.

Drugheads are notorious for doing stupid things all the time and I've actively intervened in situations where some drug-addled suburbanite does or says something stupid (that their pickled brains thought was cool or witty) that would understandably earn them a beatdown. And yes I do know of one case where a guy hired a homeless man to work around his house and the homeless man and his druggie friends ripped the guy off.

With the exception of the drug use, none of it has any bearing on whether or not the person could be a prepper.

[Hermit Jax]

Originally Posted by Doc_Shane

Can you buy Mountain House with EBT?

Technically YES in certain circunstances.

If it's carried in a supermarket and depending on how it got entered into the supermarket's point-of-sale database. If it's entered as a foodstuff not for immediate consumption you should be able to buy it. If it's entered as emergency supplies, then no unless you are in an area currently under alert.

[Doc_Shane]

Originally Posted by Hermit Jax

Technically YES in certain circunstances.

If it's carried in a supermarket and depending on how it got entered into the supermarket's point-of-sale database. If it's entered as a foodstuff not for immediate consumption you should be able to buy it. If it's entered as emergency supplies, then no unless you are in an area currently under alert.

Then I guess technically yes liberals can be preppers.........

[Browning 35]

Originally Posted by Hermit Jax

Those folks aren't liberals per se. The Obama sticker says they preferred Obama to Romney (most non-whites and non-males did). The Darwin sticker basically says they are for the separation of church and state but nothing about their conservatism or liberalism other than that one issue. The potleaf sticker says they are doped up 20 to 40 somethings and may well not really care either way.

Drugheads are notorious for doing stupid things all the time and I've actively intervened in situations where some drug-addled suburbanite does or says something stupid (that their pickled brains thought was cool or witty) that would understandably earn them a beatdown. And yes I do know of one case where a guy hired a homeless man to work around his house and the homeless man and his druggie friends ripped the guy off.

Okay, it's duly noted that some random dude on the net who wasn't there and didn't see or meet these people disagrees with my analysis. :Shrug

With the exception of the drug use, none of it has any bearing on whether or not the person could be a prepper.

I disagree on the fact that is has bearing, to me it speaks to mindset.

You're more than welcome to disagree though.

(It was a Darwin is my homeboy t shirt, not a sticker. His buddy had on the Obama shirt)

[Hermit Jax]

Originally Posted by Doc_Shane

Then I guess technically yes liberals can be preppers.........

I actually got a chuckle out of that one....

[Hermit Jax]

Originally Posted by Browning 35

Okay, it's duly noted that some random dude on the net who wasn't there and didn't see or meet these people disagrees with my analysis. :Shrug

**not a dude but I'm glad you'r being polite about the disagreement. And you are right - I haven't seen or met them.

I disagree on the fact that is has bearing, to me it speaks to mindset.

You're more than welcome to disagree though.

(It was a Darwin is my homeboy t shirt, not a sticker. His buddy had on the Obama shirt)

I totally missed the 'homeboy' part and would drop his age to mid-20's now, wearing a t-shirt for something he hasn't thought thru his position on. I'm more accustomed to seeing Darwin fish decals (its the difference between someone doing something trendy and someone who's thought things thru for themselves and came to a decision). Anyone rockin a 'Darwin is my homeboy' obviously has no grounding in admittedly racist history of evolution of the theory of evolution.

As for mindset, all bets are off when you are dealing with someone wacked out on drugs. They really have no normal rational mind. A rational liberal and a rational conservative can in fact have a civil adult conversation with each other. They may disagree. But once you throw drugs in the mix you have all sorts of problems. At least the potheads are relatively calm. The methheads are trouble with a capital T.

All things considered, if TSHTF whether someone was a liberal , a conservative or antiChurch would not bother me as long as they brought a positive contribution to the table. A hard core druggie, and a hard core religious zealot would get shown the door. I don't want want anyone with clouded judgement around for security and safety reasons, and I don't want anyone dead set on causing internal strife around when there's enough external crap to deal with.

I do see your point tho - some folks do seem to go out of their way to put themselves in a position of danger needlessly.