Originally Posted by ClosetFreek
i am telling you the facts as i had seen and heard them. if any of you want to call BS then so be it. to be honest i dont care. i was sharing information so that you all could make your own assessment of it.
my brother with his tax return money about march of 2012 bought 2 firearms from the pawn shop in my town. a glock .40 and .45.
my brother gave the .40 to my cousin and he was re-paying my brother back in increments.
my cousin either thought he had to, or just wanted to register the gun in his name (his later explanation was so if it was stolen the serial number would be on record to him owning it)
within 24 hours of my cousin registering the firearm in his name the ATF went to my parents house (my brother rents the apt in the downstairs basement)
my father (one of the most honest men i have ever known) answers the door, it was the ATF looking for my brother.
after my father asked them what it was about they had told him that the gun was registered to my brother and then a day later re-registered to my cousin.
as far as i know there was no reason my cousin couldn't own a gun, i do not think there was anything pending against him etc.
this is the events as they were told to me by my father, my brother, and my cousin. there was no changing of the story, and there wasn't any exaggeration.
if you think its BS and want to say it as so, that's your right.
as far as making the state of Maine "look bad" that's not my intention, i love this state, and i love the fairly relaxed gun laws. i was born and raised here, lived in 3 other states and always came back home.
i will say this, i doubt it has anything to do with this situation, but it may.
back in 2011 a third cousin of mine, having the same last name was arrested by the ATF, the person with my cousin had opened fired on the ATF as they busted in the door to his home, The man with my cousin was the only person injured, and eventually died from gunshot wounds. but that happened in Mass.
I believe you when you say that's how you heard it but that story has a bunch of unanswered questions.
Did your brother register it with someone? (back when I was working in a gun store and did NCIS checks, I don't recall having to give manufacturer, model or serial number to NCIS, just whether it was long gun, shotgun or handgun, that information went on a form that stayed in the store)
If there is no registration requirements in Maine, where did your cousin go to register it? I understand he wanted it in case it gets stolen but that's why you take pictures of it and record serial number for the insurance company.
Did he just show up at the police department and say I want to register this? If there is no requirement for registration I would think they would've just given him a funny look and said you don't have to. If he was insistent, they would've written it down and it would've sat there until someone could figure out what procedure they should us with it.
The big question is how could have the ATF known about any of this? For them to show up the next day and have completely traced a firearm that wasn't suspected in any kind of criminal activity is, from what I understand, against the law. They would've have to had some kind of probable cause to dig into the records to trace the sale back to your brother. They don't do things that quickly even in a murder investigation. It just seems very odd.
Like I said, I believe you that this is what you were told but it has me shaking my head.