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ive never really considered damage or wounding potential as much as what seems to be discussed on here, decent ammo of any of the military cartridges is going to get the job done, whether its 308 relying on a large TSC, 5.56 fragmenting and tumbling, or 7.62x39 doing what it does (tumble for the rounds i use).. so with all of these options doing fairly well in the category of causing damage ive look to other advantages/disadvantages of each one because to me it doesnt matter how it works, so long as it does
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just because a round has more energy does not mean its going to transfer more, for example a 308 has 2.5x+ the energy of a 5.56 round, it has tons of energy but when an FMJ round passes straight through without tumbling its not going to transfer or dump all that much energy, bigger does not always mean better
right which is why when you compare calibers you need to compare similar projectile construction....

the new sexy m855a1 or SOST or OTM stuff needs to be compared to other calibers with the same projectiles.

i am glad R&D is getting some money to make some loadings more effective... i think its a good thing, but its about 30-40 years late, and i think that R&D can be adapted to other calibers just the same.
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with level IV SAPI and additional soft armor behind it i would absolutely take a 5.45, a 5.56 or a 7.62x39 (any loading) for the sake of testing.... i would not however test the same setup with a 7mm rem mag or higher.
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with level IV SAPI and additional soft armor behind it i would absolutely take a 5.45, a 5.56 or a 7.62x39 (any loading) for the sake of testing.... i would not however test the same setup with a 7mm rem mag or higher.
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right which is why when you compare calibers you need to compare similar projectile construction....

the new sexy m855a1 or SOST or OTM stuff needs to be compared to other calibers with the same projectiles.

i am glad R&D is getting some money to make some loadings more effective... i think its a good thing, but its about 30-40 years late, and i think that R&D can be adapted to other calibers just the same.
i actually compare costs.. sure we can all go spend $1.50-$2/rd on high end hunting ammo for a 308 that'll kill anything with ease, but screw that, im not spending more than $0.25/rd on ammo
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i actually compare costs.. sure we can all go spend $1.50-$2/rd on high end hunting ammo for a 308 that'll kill anything with ease, but screw that, im not spending more than $0.25/rd on ammo
ah ha... so cost is a huge deciding factor like i have been saying....
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Hell, I wouldn't stand in front of a ****-filled supersoaker.
well we didnt have a choice in iraq.... seen good stops on 7.62x54r with level IV protection and the right placement.

when i say 'for testing purposes' that infers proper placement.
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ah ha... so cost is a huge deciding factor like i have been saying....
For a civilian? Sure.

The military doesn't care. Economy of scale makes ammo cheap for the military.

M855A1 is currently running somewhere around .21-.24¢ per round. M80A1 is projected to be somewhere around .50-60¢ a round.

That's cheaper than M855 was.
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