mistake on flu vaccine this year?

[speedofl33t]

Originally Posted by pastornator

I use silver as well when I have issues with breathing and bronchitis and it works great, but I'm not a fan of injesting or injecting silver on a regular basis.

My mom went through 2 rounds of antibiotics to no avail and she started the silver but no improvement. Too bad. Heard a lot good about the stuff. They don't even know what she has, but they think it might be Lyme.

[speedofl33t]

Originally Posted by 10 Bears

Better blue than DEAD

Yea aren't you the fan of color? Refusing to eat white taters and white eggs, they have to be red and brown.

I asked if your taters are red right through but I never got a reply.

[JerseyPatriot]

The only mistake you can make with a flu vaccine is taking one.

[10 Bears]

Originally Posted by pastornator

Calling me a shill is rather a smack, isn't it? I'm a learner like everyone else who is trying to sort out what is fact or fiction. I work with a certified herbalist who is also an RN and has the qualifications to speak with some authority on the issue.

The Mayo Clinic says this:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/col...silver/AN01682



The National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM)says this:

http://nccam.nih.gov/health/silver



Now, again, before you go off on me, note that I too use a SMALL amount of silver, and I also use cloth infused with silver particles for various uses. I am aware of the anti-microbial action of silver and that it was the substance of choice until newer antibiotics were discovered. But, I am arguing caution in the use, for there ARE known side effects, and those are most prevalant among those who self-treat.

You go with the info from the barbarians that cut, burn and poison the body at 10's of 1,000's of dollars to cure cancer. The very people with the most to gain by bombing silver to dust and call that authority?

Oh man, using them is like using Bernie Madoff as your retirement investment adviser from 1990 to 2008...

We have a very corrupted med system in the United States. A system that by law no one can claim anything non-big pharma cures anything without going to jail. A system that jails farmers who sell whole milk. A system that sees few benefits in vitamins. A system that loads our food systems with genetic altering foods-GMO. A system that puts toxins in our water supplies.

You cite the very people that have no clue nor will they ever buy a clue because to do so defeats their self-interest and the $$$$$$$$$$$$$ their methods rob from an all too trusting public. You rely on them.

Chemo Brain, Alzheimers, Colon Cancer, Lung Cancer, Heart Disease, Hardening of the arteries, Autism, Obesity, Diabetes and a myriad of other diseases have gone out of control since the late 1960's under this system you all seem to love and trust and it is getting WORSE, so much worse and you still drink the Koolaid, allow the poisoning, watch family and friends and even yourselves be virtually tortured to death by this evil FOR PROFIT system and then you have the nerve to say something can turn you blue maybe.

Do you listen to yourselves? Do you reason it all out? Are you that far gone? I guess I know the answer.

Take a shot with 9 different organ toxic ingredients that build up in organ tissues to slowly degrade your health just to avoid something that even Vitamin C can destroy if employed properly at zero side effects except better health.. or small amounts of colloidal silver,,an ounce here an ounce there.

I've seen brain washing before..it lives in America. It allows otherwise intelligent people to act against their own best interests.

What is my motive here? What am I selling? Where is the evidence I profit from my efforts? I think you can see I make nothing from this-unlike the Drug Shill that points you to Wyeth or Pfizer or Merk among others using fear tactics, billions spent on media commercials and even laws that restrict free flowing information and the true freedom of informed choice or REAL HEALTH FREEDOM.

Believe the AMA who will de-license any physician that bucks this corrupt system by speaking truth to it.

You ask your jailers questions.. What do you think they are going to say as they legislate to take away your right to control your own body?

[10 Bears]

Originally Posted by speedofl33t

Yea aren't you the fan of color? Refusing to eat white taters and white eggs, they have to be red and brown.

I asked if your taters are red right through but I never got a reply.

Whites. Contain too much sugar. In flours white is BLEACHED flour stripped of nutrients..you like drinking bleach I guess you like eating it too.

White sugar is nutritionally dead. Stripped of everything good about it we use honey, turbino (raw sugar), molasses. My wife is a type one diabetic since age 4 or 49yrs and is in great health. She takes zero drugs.. just insulin so I think I know what I'm doing in relation to healthy cooking.

The Glycemic Index

Vegetables russett potatoes 98 white potatoes 70-90 parsnips 95 carrots 85 instant potatoes 80 corn/cornflakes 70-85 French fries,small 75 rutabaga 71 beets 70 red-skin potatoes 58 green peas 51 sweet potatoes 50 tomatoes 38 tomato soup 38 chickpeas 36 lima beans 36 black beans 30 kidney beans 29 lentils 29 soybeans 15 green vegetables 0-15
Rice & Grains puffed rice 95 white bread 95 rice pasta, 1 cup 92 instant rice, 1 cup 87 rice cakes (2) 82 millet 75 kaiser roll 73 corn tortilla 72 white rice 70 whole wheat bread 70 arborio risotto 69 corn meal (1/3 cup) 68 taco shells (2) 68 refined pasta 65 couscous (1/3 cup) 61 bran muffin 60 brown rice 55 popcorn(2 cups) 55 whole rice 50 tortellini,cheese 50 whole grain bread 40-50 bulgur(1/3 cup, cooked) 48 wheat grains 45 whole grain pasta 45 whole grain rye 42 pumpernickel (1 slice) 41
Fruit dates(5) 103 raisins 65 figs, dried (3) 61 banana 60 mango (1 small) 55 kiwi (1) 52 grapes 50 pears 45 orange 40 apple 40 dried apricots 35 figs 35 strawberries 32 peaches 30 prunes (6) 29 grapefruit 26 plums 25 cherries 23 fresh apricots 20 prickly pear 7
Breakfast Cereal puffed rice 95 Rice Chex 89 Cheerios 74 Grape Nuts 71 Shredded wheat 70 Swiss Museli 67 Just Right 60 Bran Buds 58 All Bran 55 Special K (1 cup) 54 Oatmeal(not instant) 40
Crackers & Snacks pretzels 83 water crackers(5) 78 saltines (3) 74 corn chips 71 popcorn (2 cups) 55 potato chips 51 peanuts 10
Sweet Treats tofu frozen dessert 115 vanilla wafers (6) 77 lifesavers (5,peppermint) 70 tapioca 70 Mars bar 68 Angel food cake (1 slice) 67 shortbread (2 cookies) 64 pound cake (1 slice) 54 strawberry jam (1 tbsp.) 51 sponge cake (1 slice) 45 marmalade (1 tbsp) 48 Twix cookie bar (59 g.) 44 ice cream, 2 scoops 36-61 dark chocolate (70% cocoa) 22
Sweeteners maltose 105 glucose 100 high fructose corn syrup 87 sucrose (table sugar) 75 honey 55 fructose 20 agave nectar (1 tbsp) 11
Juice & Drinks gatorade (1 cup) 78 cranberry juice cocktail 52 pineapple juice 48 grapefruit juice 48 orange juice 46 apple juice 40 tomato juice 37
Dairy sweetened condensed milk(1/2 cup) 61 yogurt 35 skim milk (1 cup) 32 whole milk (1 cup) 27 ice cream 37-61

Anything under 60 is considered excellent. This chart from my files.


I hope this is your answer.

This is a Survivalist Forum so I certainly hope you folks have a plan to stay healthy when mainstream medicine dies.
You are fighting the guy that uses his plan in his life and has for years.

So when TSHTF are you going to be bankrupted health-wise by ongoing dependence to a system that is no longer there for you or do you take responsibility now to learn how to survive?

You either live healthy or die from illness you have no clue how to stop.
I can't imagine watching a child or spouse die from stubborn ignorance.

[speedofl33t]

Milk seems OK, it's white.

[Jager78]

Originally Posted by pastornator

I invite you to come to work at the school where I manage facilities. Clean up the puke and every other bodily fluid excreted (and at times turned into art work) by 500+ students and staff, then see if your means halts the flu or not...

And, please (again) note that I did NOT get the shot. Never have. Just saying... Those who have never had the flu have most likely not been around others who have it and spread it around like it is free candy (or free beer!). I'm still recovering a couple weeks later.

This season I have been around several persons that had the flu and did not get it. Ok I would probably get it if I was cleaning up puke from someone that had the flu I would probably get it too. However as I have stated I have been in close proximity to many over the years that have had the flu and I never catch it.

[pastornator]

Originally Posted by Jager78

This season I have been around several persons that had the flu and did not get it. Ok I would probably get it if I was cleaning up puke from someone that had the flu I would probably get it too. However as I have stated I have been in close proximity to many over the years that have had the flu and I never catch it.

As long as you understand that your anecdotal testimonial is not a correlation...

[aquensis]

Started to get it, first day I did I made ginger/pepper tea and had it with a bunch of lightly cooked kale and the very next morning it was knocked down from throbbing headache and pain every time I moved my head, to light sniffles.

[12vman]

Originally Posted by pastornator

As long as you understand that your anecdotal testimonial is not a correlation...

works both ways.......right?

[PrincessKraken]

Originally Posted by aquensis

Started to get it, first day I did I made ginger/pepper tea and had it with a bunch of lightly cooked kale and the very next morning it was knocked down from throbbing headache and pain every time I moved my head, to light sniffles.

Then what you had was a simple cold.

Not the flu.

[America's Patriot]

The strain of the flu that is going around this year is different than the vaccination. Shots were pretty much worthless this year.

[speedofl33t]

OK here is what I got from the CDC and other big health related sites;

The vaccination has A/California/7/2009 (H1N1)-like, A/Victoria/361/2011 (H3N2)-like, and B/Wisconsin/1/2010-like (Yamagata lineage) antigens.

The H1N1 and type A are very good matches. The type A is a better match than seen in years (so far). The problem is a mutation in the type B strain. The mutation is not present in all USA and is much less present in Europe. Both the unmutated and mutated B strain live side by side in USA which actually acts like a hot spot for the mutation.

Also here in Europe we have a delay altogether in flu peak which means there will be time for even more mutations.

[pastornator]

Originally Posted by 10 Bears

You go with the info from the barbarians that cut, burn and poison the body at 10's of 1,000's of dollars to cure cancer. The very people with the most to gain by bombing silver to dust and call that authority?

Oh man, using them is like using Bernie Madoff as your retirement investment adviser from 1990 to 2008...

We have a very corrupted med system in the United States. A system that by law no one can claim anything non-big pharma cures anything without going to jail. A system that jails farmers who sell whole milk. A system that sees few benefits in vitamins. A system that loads our food systems with genetic altering foods-GMO. A system that puts toxins in our water supplies.

You cite the very people that have no clue nor will they ever buy a clue because to do so defeats their self-interest and the $$$$$$$$$$$$$ their methods rob from an all too trusting public. You rely on them.

Chemo Brain, Alzheimers, Colon Cancer, Lung Cancer, Heart Disease, Hardening of the arteries, Autism, Obesity, Diabetes and a myriad of other diseases have gone out of control since the late 1960's under this system you all seem to love and trust and it is getting WORSE, so much worse and you still drink the Koolaid, allow the poisoning, watch family and friends and even yourselves be virtually tortured to death by this evil FOR PROFIT system and then you have the nerve to say something can turn you blue maybe.

Do you listen to yourselves? Do you reason it all out? Are you that far gone? I guess I know the answer.

Take a shot with 9 different organ toxic ingredients that build up in organ tissues to slowly degrade your health just to avoid something that even Vitamin C can destroy if employed properly at zero side effects except better health.. or small amounts of colloidal silver,,an ounce here an ounce there.

I've seen brain washing before..it lives in America. It allows otherwise intelligent people to act against their own best interests.

What is my motive here? What am I selling? Where is the evidence I profit from my efforts? I think you can see I make nothing from this-unlike the Drug Shill that points you to Wyeth or Pfizer or Merk among others using fear tactics, billions spent on media commercials and even laws that restrict free flowing information and the true freedom of informed choice or REAL HEALTH FREEDOM.

Believe the AMA who will de-license any physician that bucks this corrupt system by speaking truth to it.

You ask your jailers questions.. What do you think they are going to say as they legislate to take away your right to control your own body?

Perhaps too much "herbal" tea or something?