Is Windows 8 officially the next Microsoft BOB, Me, Vista

[RZRBACK]

It is not intended for enterprise deployment. The Metro interface is directed toward tablets and mobile devices, with a compliment for pc functionality. As it evolves, the Metro integration into a larger segment of software will occur and make it easier to migrate with other uses.

[RZRBACK]

Originally Posted by kmonto

Windows 8 is TRULY the worse OS out right now. I have two laptops that run it, horrible... STAY AWAY if you can.... To bad they have blocked me from upgrading windows 8 to Linux. Hopefully that fix will be out shortly.

???????? You can't 'UPGRADE' from Win to Linux. Are you wanting to dual boot or just install a Linux OS instead of Win8? Secure Boot is easy to work around - I'd be happy to tell you how. Otherwise, just install any Linux distro and change the partitions.

[Old_Mil]

I'm running Windows 8 as well. I've used DOS, Win 95, 98, XP (Skipped Vista), 7 on this machine, and have upgraded it to 8. It's the best, smoothest, most bug-free operating system I've ever seen come out of Redmond and the only one that remotely comes close to the Linux boxes I run at home in terms of ease of use and elegance.

[crazy canuck]

I'm using a Microsoft Surface with RT, and I'm finding it great. But I do think Windows 8 is aimed at computers with both a touchscreen and mouse/keyboard. The experience probably isn't as good without a touchscreen.

But to those who are saying win 8 is a failure: sales are matching Windows 7. The price drop is probably due to a transition to a yearly release cycle (Windows Blue rumours anyone?). The new interface is undeniably superior for touch/gesture input in phones, tablets and Xboxes, and Microsoft has stated they want to adopt a unified OS across all devices, so an interface that works decently across all of them is an important thing.

[REM]

XP does everything that I need to do and we had zero problems managing around 700 PCs. Well, there were web and email exploits... but it's windoze.

Vista was absolutely horrible.

I never saw a need for Win 7.

The same with Win 8.

I'm very impressed with Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop

Microsoft and it's wanting to sell you a new OS every few years is bound to fail at some point.

[crazy canuck]

Originally Posted by REM

XP does everything that I need to do and we had zero problems managing around 700 PCs. Well, there were web and email exploits... but it's windoze.

Vista was absolutely horrible.

I never saw a need for Win 7.

The same with Win 8.

I'm very impressed with Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop

Microsoft and it's wanting to sell you a new OS every few years is bound to fail at some point.

I can't understand why you must denigrate a successful company that makes products people want, using good capitalism, with such childish terms as 'windoze' and 'm$'. It's pointless and antagonizing.

I own computers running all Microsoft OSes since Win 2K. I found Vista to be a good step forward in design and usability from XP. Same with Windows 7. And 8. I find all of them to be the best in their respective generations.

Ubuntu is decent, but suffers from the same flaw every distro of Linux (except OSX) does. It's built for nerds and people who aren't interested in getting things done. It's overly complicated and difficult to find programs for (installing and using any you find is **** too).
I also find the interface hideous and annoying and sloooooooooow.
Word 2013 on my Microsoft Surface opens less than 2 seconds after I tap a file. I have a Core2 Duo (2Ghz) laptop with Ubuntu 10. Openoffice takes 9 seconds to load and when it does, it looks more old-fashioned and useless than a blunt stone axe.

Just my opinion.

[Eugene]

After every Ms OS improved up through Windows 2000 then afterward IE was forced in they went downhill, I switched over to linux and never looked back.

[REM]

Originally Posted by crazy canuck

I can't understand why you must denigrate a successful company that makes products people want, using good capitalism, with such childish terms as 'windoze' and 'm$'. It's pointless and antagonizing.

I'm just offering my opinion, which is as valid as any other I suppose.

Windoze is what I dub it simply for the complete lack of security in lieu of turning out a new product every few years. Greed.

Originally Posted by crazy canuck

I own computers running all Microsoft OSes since Win 2K. I found Vista to be a good step forward in design and usability from XP. Same with Windows 7. And 8. I find all of them to be the best in their respective generations.

That's the difference between you and I. I see absolutely no need in anything after XP. It does anything that I need to do and I was taking care of 700 PCs running XP. It rocks!

I've been at it since DOS 6.0 if you feel the need for a timeline.

You simply choose to buy each OS that Microsoft puts out, where I do not. It appears the same for the money making Microsoft Office suites? Word 2013? I still have and use 2000 and 2003.

Originally Posted by crazy canuck

Ubuntu is decent, but suffers from the same flaw every distro of Linux (except OSX) does. It's built for nerds and people who aren't interested in getting things done. It's overly complicated and difficult to find programs for (installing and using any you find is **** too).

I also find the interface hideous and annoying and sloooooooooow.
Word 2013 on my Microsoft Surface opens less than 2 seconds after I tap a file. I have a Core2 Duo (2Ghz) laptop with Ubuntu 10. Openoffice takes 9 seconds to load and when it does, it looks more old-fashioned and useless than a blunt stone axe.

Just my opinion.

Step up to the plate and roll up your sleeves if you want to get to the nut and bolts of Linux. If not it's perfectly usable as is for the vast majority of PC users. Mozilla and Thunderbird work just like they do running an MS OS. It has a Word type program as well.

To me computers and the internet were not intended as monopolistic money making ventures. I use freeware and open source software anytime that I can.

To each his or her own.

[crazy canuck]

Originally Posted by REM

To me computers and the internet were not intended as monopolistic money making ventures. I use freeware and open source software anytime that I can.

To each his or her own.

I agree with your last statement, but none of the other ones.

I've always looked on the open source movement as a sort of idealistic communism, and the brainchild of those who don't recognize private property.
(Not trying to start a flame war, just my opinion as a huge Microsoft fan. I recognize that you may not resemble that stereotype)

[dannydefense]

Originally Posted by crazy canuck

I can't understand why you must denigrate a successful company that makes products people want, using good capitalism, with such childish terms as 'windoze' and 'm$'. It's pointless and antagonizing.

You sound a lot like a guy I knew once who worked for Microsoft. He was all excited about an app I was showing him, until he realized that Microsoft made something similar and the conditioning kicked in. He swore up and down that they stole it from Microsoft, and was ranting and raving about turning them in until I provided proof that the application had been out for years before MS even played with the idea in r&d. Do y'all walk through big arches of any kind that they tell you are "metal detectors" but for some reason they never make you remove your belt?

Originally Posted by crazy canuck

I own computers running all Microsoft OSes since Win 2K. I found Vista to be a good step forward in design and usability from XP. Same with Windows 7. And 8. I find all of them to be the best in their respective generations.

Your experience is an individual one, same as the person who you were responding to. I recommend anyone who has the choice between Vista and XP to run XP, but if you can get your hands on 7, do it. That's just my individual opinion though, you are welcome to abide by it or ignore it completely. I also ran exclusively under Linux for two years while I worked full time in the technology sector, and I managed to get things done just fine.

In all honesty I have my own biases too. I had to use Apple for a bit, and I will not touch that overpriced junk in my home if it would save my life. I would much rather support Microsoft if I had to make that choice.

[REM]

Originally Posted by crazy canuck

I've always looked on the open source movement as a sort of idealistic communism, and the brainchild of those who don't recognize private property.

Uncanny. Only Bill Gates and his followers could ever take a global project of volunteers who create programs of worth for all to use, even corporations in many cases, and make a rant comparing the synergy of volunteers to something as drastically negative as communism.

No flame war accepted. You're just way out there from what the internet was established for.

To give willingly and expect no monetary gain is not a bad thing.

[Eugene]

Originally Posted by crazy canuck

I agree with your last statement, but none of the other ones.

I've always looked on the open source movement as a sort of idealistic communism, and the brainchild of those who don't recognize private property.
(Not trying to start a flame war, just my opinion as a huge Microsoft fan. I recognize that you may not resemble that stereotype)

Except that Microsoft, Apple, etc take the ideas from the open source world, patent them then sell them and then sue the person who thought of it while claiming was their private property from the start and the open source world was who stole the idea.

[kmonto]

I run OpenSuse and love it. Comes with full office suite for free. Works with everything I have and is incredibly fast.

The wife and 3rd oldest son runs windows 8. They all hate it. I tried to install linux but Windows is blocking it. They are working on a work around for that.

My work is still running xp. Some are upgrading to windows 7. They WILL NOT be going to windows 8. They can't stand it.