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Solar Storm 15 3.03%
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Electromagnetic pulse (collapse of power grid) 55 11.11%
Nuclear dirty bombs 9 1.82%
Asteroid impact 8 1.62%
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Old 03-21-2017, 04:42 AM
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with a solar minimum and a reducing magnetosphere, I think we're in for some turbulent times!
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Default What, in your opinion, is the most pressing threat we should prepare for?

I'm just curious:

What do you consider the most pressing thing people should be preparing for?

There's all sort of stuff to consider. Nuclear attacks, EMP, cyber attacks, major disasters. But what about another great depression or food crisis?

Or are more people concerned with regular sutff....losing their jobs, preparing for a major economic downtown, etc. than an out of the blue SHTF scenario?

I'm just wondering.

(extra question: what do you think about the threat of socialism/ Leftist agenda?)

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Someone just becoming aware that it’s a good idea to prepare, should probably prepare for a localized event. I mean a very localized event, as within your yard fence or inside of your home. Your preps can expand from there, but first, try to be prepared to handle a personal event. Local events are more numerous.

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I concur with Olpoop. Prep for life changing events starting with your home. Prep for losing your job. Prep for retirement. Prep for getting sick/hurt for a long time.

Step it up to prepping your property. Prep for natural disasters common to your area. For me, that means earthquakes and forest fires. Back in Saint Louis that meant floods and tornadoes.

Then prep for your local area. Riots, financial collapse on a local scale like the auto plant closing down, local pandemic such as bird flu.

Don't worry about nuclear attack, EMPs and invading Koreans until you've got enough food and water laid back to survive for a set amount of time. Start with stocking up enough food to last a week, then 2 weeks, then a month, then three months, six months, a year.

Once you're prepped for a year's worth of unemployment, including food and water, then start thinking about renewable preps. Gardens, water collection and off-grid prepping are all things to think about and plan for while you're building up your basic preps.
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Hurricane. Only because I live on the gulf coast.

If I lived up in the mountains it would be for a blizzard. California would be wildfires. So local disasters that are fairly predictable.
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I agree with Olpoop's assessment above. I'm just starting with prepping and the first goal is hurricane preparedness, since I live in central Florida. This includes food, weapons, ammo and basic medical supplies. Next level, once I achieve the first goal, will be extra food in case of personal financial hardship. Level 3 will be more protection equipment as well as more food in case of another depression like event. After that will be just stacking on more in every category for a collapse event. I think that would most likely come from an EMP or cyberattack on the grid. Possibly an orchestrated collapse of the dollar but am most concerned with EMP. Breaking it up into levels makes it seem more attainable to me.
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Contrary to what you hear on Doomsday Preppers, there's no such thing as prepping for a single event.

Are you really going to do anything different if "prepping" for a hurricane instead of an earthquake?

There are literally thousands of useful threads here about how to start being Prepared, regardless of the specific perceived threat.

Since the #1 key to Survival is Skills, followed by knowledge (not buying Tactifool stuff), I suggest you read up and understand what it takes to truly Survive, and then develop a PLAN on how you're going to get there.

FYI, your Plan will take many years to actually accomplish (if ever), so include several milestones that are achievable in the short term.

Survival is more of a life style, not buying crap in case the moon changes shape.

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1) Personal tragedy, including job loss and localized weather events such as tornadoes and hurricanes.
2) Localized rioting or civil unrest that keeps you from the grocery store for 1-3 days.
3) Widespread civil unrest that is caused by either provocateurs, a hack that causes some services to be down for a period of time, or a natural disaster where aid cannot be immediately rendered.
4) Disruptions to computer systems/power grids due to hacking. We saw an example of this Friday and over the weekend when hospitals in the UK, telecommunications and train systems across Europe, and a lot more damage was done by a single ransomware/worm attack. This would lead to a lack of services and civil unrest if it went long enough.
5) War. Even a war with North Korea would cause people to freak out in this day and time. Some civil unrest, a lot of panic buying.
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Interruption in the food\medicine supply.
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You should address the rule of 3's, shelter, water, food; no mater what the reason you need the stuff.

Have a good BOB, that meets all your needs for at least 3 days, that you have actually tested in your area of operation in weather extremes . Have places to go by different means and paths. More stuff is better - cache at the locations or along the way. A cart will take the load off your back in case you are walking.

Work on skills - they are the lightest things to carry on your back. Learn your local plants, same for fish and game.
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my #1 prep is for blizzards that knock out utilities for a week
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why would this be different from the great depression...it was rather peacefully and many were ww1 vets?
People are different today than they were before. You'd never see people attacking Trump supporters at a rally...or riots over an arrest...or cops abusing their power like they are today.

There is more anger, paranoia, and government abuse than ever. I don't see the Great Depression happening the way it did, especially in a world of entitlement and laziness like we have today.
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People are different today than they were before. You'd never see people attacking Trump supporters at a rally...or riots over an arrest...or cops abusing their power like they are today.
There was literally a Civil War. And Watergate, and votes were cast publicly on colored ballots in railroad towns where people were beaten and chased out of town if they had the wrong color paper, and McCarthyism, and bombings during the Vietnam War protests, and Monkey Wrenching industry over several decades, and slavery, and the KKK, and police poisoning alcohol bc alcohol is bad for us, and....

You might be romanticizing our history a little bit.
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People are different today than they were before. You'd never see people attacking Trump supporters at a rally...or riots over an arrest...or cops abusing their power like they are today.

There is more anger, paranoia, and government abuse than ever. I don't see the Great Depression happening the way it did, especially in a world of entitlement and laziness like we have today.

A great depression would be nastier than in the past. People are nastier now than in the '30s.
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A great depression would be nastier than in the past. People are nastier now than in the '30s.


We are also a lot softer physically and mentally than we were back then. Folks back then who were hit the hardest had some basic survival skills. People these days don't even know how to catch a fish or hold a hammer
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It will be a lot worse now because there are way more people on assistance that expect free stuff for nothing - they will not peaceably wait in a bread/soup line.

Dad and mom were teenagers when the great depression hit. Dad was in a town, with 6 siblings and a widowed mother - things were tough, there were no treats or new stuff, but they didn't starve, everyone worked. Mom was on a farm - it was paid for so they got to keep it - lots others lost the farm due to taxes or mortgages.

Neither one of them trusted banks or for that matter the gubernment. Dad resented when they took in all the gold coins at face value about $20/oz then changed the price to like $50/oz almost overnight. He kept his $2.5 gold coin he had found as a kid.

Don't fool yourself, it was Hitler that pulled us out of the depression and it was the NWO/bankster's that put him in power. The military industrial complex/bankster's are more than happy to trade people's lives for profits.
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Don't fool yourself, it was Hitler that pulled us out of the depression and it was the NWO/bankster's that put him in power. The military industrial complex/bankster's are more than happy to trade people's lives for profits.

To whatever extent this is true, it makes me cringe.

I'm rusty on economics but I'd like to think the depression would have passed eventually, without WWII.
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