They can have longer barrels, but a lot of times they don't. It's the compactness that the design is best known for. Personally, I hate short barrels. I'm eagerly waiting on Kel-Tec to release their bullpup with the 24 inch barrel. It'll be about as long and heavy as an AK-47, but with a longer barrel than a FAL. That's a nice combination.
Bullpup rifles are the way forward in the future of arms design,
Is there any benefit to having the weapon in the conventional format? (aside from nostalgia and training?)
Bullpup designs do save space (length), allowing a full-length barrel in a compact package.
There are downsides though. Getting a crisp clean trigger break is very hard when it involves long levers and action bars. Of course the military has little interest in clean crisp triggers, figuring that a 7lb pull with a lot of travel help keep grunts out of trouble under stress.
The other downside is with any kind of fire-out-of-battery. Ie if the round goes off with the chamber slightly open (it happens with dirty chambers and rapid fire sometimes) the explosion is at your face rather than out at your hands.
Compact rifles are nice for close quarters. But, there are disadvantages.
-Most designs will eject cases at your face if shot with the other hand. For cover and concealment, it may be better to shoot with your other hand at times. You may injur your one hand. You may need someone else to shoot your rifle.
-As said before linkages add complexity and potential more problems.
-Sight radius. Have 16" between the sights versus the bullpup's 10" or so can make a big difference on accuracy.
-Magazine changes. The magazine is towards the rear of the rifle, making one handed while shouldered magazine swap close to impossible on some designs.
-Prone shooting. Haven't fired a bullpup much really, this may be an issue without the aide of a bipod or backpack as a rest.
-Most designs will eject cases at your face if shot with the other hand. For cover and concealment, it may be better to shoot with your other hand at times. You may injur your one hand. You may need someone else to shoot your rifle.
-As said before linkages add complexity and potential more problems.
-Sight radius. Have 16" between the sights versus the bullpup's 10" or so can make a big difference on accuracy.
-Magazine changes. The magazine is towards the rear of the rifle, making one handed while shouldered magazine swap close to impossible on some designs.
-Prone shooting. Haven't fired a bullpup much really, this may be an issue without the aide of a bipod or backpack as a rest.
Don't get me wrong cuz' I love AR's, Galil's and lots of other systems. BUT
You can shoot any bullpup with opposite hand and same shoulder. AUG/P90 are superior to any other system one handed. P90's eject straight down.
Linkage is not a problem and on the AUG it's a non-issue. Much cleaner, easier to maintain system and better protected from elements.
Bullpups are easy for most anyone to shoot, particularly women, who often have trouble with the weight forward of an accessorized M4.
Magazine swaps are much easier with mag close up and point of balance in center. Not as fast as bolt slap AR's but still pretty easy. New A3's are very fast. AUG mags are the best ever built for a military type rifle.
All modern bullpups but the French made FAMAS rifle use optical sights. AUG, Galil/TR-21, SA-80, P90, Bushy, etc. The Norinco 86S is another exception.
Never a problem from prone. Rails available now for most any accessory or optic. The easiest system to employ in close confines.
well for starters neither of thoose guns pictured above are bullpups, one of them is a highpoint sub-carbine. the second either looks like stated "a futureistic degingn" however it has a walther and bushmaster logo on it...hmmmmmmm......... weird... Anyway the bullpup deisgn is meant to fit a full size rifle into a compact design, although not as reliable, ambi, or user friendly as most normal "assault" rifles they do not sacrifice on accuracy. for instance you could have a bullpup with a 22inch bbl and it would still be shorter than an m4. another con is their trigger pull is a little odd. not really sure what my take is on them as ofright now. never shot one. but i do research just about everything. in my mind though, ANY rifle in the right hands is an effective weapon
well for starters neither of thoose guns pictured above are bullpups, one of them is a highpoint sub-carbine. the second either looks like stated "a futureistic degingn" however it has a walther and bushmaster logo on it...hmmmmmmm......... weird
Nothing i have read here against the bullpup design has swayed me- so me, the fiew things that have been mentioned have either been discounted (thanks AKPredator) or it comes down to training issues.
I have a 10/22 in bullpup configuration. I can easily shoot it one handed, I do not have issues changing mags quickly since I have a lot of practice at it. Mine has a 30mm red dot and I added rails to the bullpup stock to hold flashligthts, lasers and so forth (I only have a taclight mounted though. Another mod, is a vertical foregrip. The one thing with this rifle though is the trigger bar. But I have teflon oil in the plastic grooves for the trigger bar which cuts way down on any type of friction, plus teflon will not damage the plastic stock or trigger bars.
Really it is a wonderful weapon, compact, easy to shoot, no reliability issues with the rifle in the stock. The only other downside is shell ejection which shoots the brass onto your right arm, or if shooting left handed straight into your face. However there is a quick fix with 100 mile and hour tape.
The Keltec 308 bullpup ejects empties forward, so it's truly ambidextrous. It makes an excellent truck gun, since it's 26.5" long, it's easier to handle in close quarters. And it's in .308, which makes it even better.
Jim
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