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Old 01-09-2013, 04:33 PM
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I think those Officers answered as best they could on camera. Did you expect them to say 'No we will not enforce the law" I hope it never comes to that because if it does we will be in a world of ****!. All the LEO's I work with said the will not take guns from law adding citizens.
I agree. If I was put into that position, everything I said would start with "As an officer of the law...". However, we all know that there will be officers that will enforce the law by any means necessary regardless of the morality or whether it is unconstitutional (they are such good soldiers). I see things like this happening in cities with larger populations (100,000K or more) and randomly in the smaller towns. I think in the smaller towns, the local police may try to enforce, but the county officers won't. At least that my perception (and some officers) from the ones that I know and have talked to.
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:49 PM
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I agree. If I was put into that position, everything I said would start with "As an officer of the law...". However, we all know that there will be officers that will enforce the law by any means necessary regardless of the morality or whether it is unconstitutional (they are such good soldiers). I see things like this happening in cities with larger populations (100,000K or more) and randomly in the smaller towns. I think in the smaller towns, the local police may try to enforce, but the county officers won't. At least that my perception (and some officers) from the ones that I know and have talked to.
Good people will follow their conscious as much as they can.
Bad people will do whatever they feel will move themselves forward.

This goes for LEO's, military and anyone that feels 'entitled' to your stuff. The bad always seem to get the spotlight, and too few LEO's (I believe the majority are good, but it is a VERY rough job) get the respect/credit that they deserve. LEO's are people; no more, no more less. Accept that and you will recognize that they are fallible just like everyone else, but also that they have morals and consciences as well.
Old 01-09-2013, 04:52 PM
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This's is a sophomoric way to prove nothing. The idea that any officer will answer such a catch 22 question is stupid. No officer is going to admit in a hypothetical question that he would disobey a lawful order from his chain of command_on a video no less.

The person doing the video said he represented a media outlet. Yet it was unprofessionally done. The officers were far more professional. The interviewer could not even stick to his subject "gun control." Gun control and the constitution are very objective in relationship and questioning. ObamaCare and it's relationship are much more subjective in nature given the application of the 10th amendment.

If the interviewer knew what he was doing, he would know every employer of any size has a "no sollicitation_distrobution policy" of some sort. Therefore he would not have ask the officers to distribute his literature. He would have found out the proper channel to follow and done so professionally.

I would advise the kid doing the video not to quit his day job. But, my guess is he doesn't have one.
Old 01-09-2013, 05:13 PM
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I want to believe the camera played a part in these officers answers, but if it didn't then people better understand what these guys are saying. Before,during and after great atrocities accrue, the sentiment is always the same "I'm just following orders!"
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They will use the DHS youth groups to take the guns they have already graduated about 125 people
Old 01-09-2013, 05:20 PM
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They will use the DHS youth frupos to take the guns they have already graduated about 125 people.
Also they will bring in DEA, ICE, US Marshals,ATF & local dumby's plus they can use the National Guard.
But not the military
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If things are really bad - I'd team up with a cop twice as fast as any neighbor I've seen mowing grass.
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If things are really bad - I'd team up with a cop twice as fast as any neighbor I've seen mowing grass.
I'll team up with those I trust, be it LEO, Military, or Joe down the street. Trust is what matters, not what they did before SHTF.
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This guy doesnt have balls he is looking for a law suite. Thats why most of these jacks do this type of thing.
Old 01-09-2013, 06:28 PM
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I was under the impression that these LEO's do not have a clue what is going on. This country is filled with people who do not know or care what the Constitution says or what it was designed to do.

IMO, the best campaign we have is to have town meeting to discuss these possible infringements so that when they come, the people and LEO will have basic knowledge of what is happening and a clearer thoughtout decision of how they will react to them.
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I think the vast majority of Americans are completely mistaken as to whom they need to fear when it comes to weapons confiscation or civil war...

If "They" come for our guns, I think they will not be our cops, or our military !

Our biggest threat is the UN !

Think about it~ If our government wants to disarm us, their only means will be to bring in foreign troops that have no loyalty to Americans !!!
This is the most effective way to get the job done ! It has happened multiple times in other nations "Trial runs" if you will... They will probably even be using our own military's equipment against us !
Bringing in UN Troops would be an amazingly stupid idea so you might be on to something. That would pretty much fit right into King Putt trying to ban guns through an EO.
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The flat foot rank in file officers will do what their superiors and the law allows them to do. It's a thin blue line and you ain't on their side.
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I know mine won't. They are all pro 2A.
Old 01-09-2013, 07:40 PM
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I don't want them to send cops or military, send the douchebags that want to take away our 2A rights. Send Fienstien, Pelosi, Schumer etc. See how many guns they take back to Washington.
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What guns? They are going underground.
Our son is a cop-he said he's not planning on taking any weapons.
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This video does not tell us much sadly.
Old 01-09-2013, 07:55 PM
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At least this guy is cordial. I am not a fan of putting the cops on the spot. In this case it is a "what if" about a law that doesn't even exist. Every dept. I have worked for doesn't allow talking about politics in uniform, and I'll bet their dept is the same. This means they can't just give an opinion and nobody in uniform is going to say to a stranger with a camera that they will not enforce the law. Sure the electied poltiicans may say that, but not the street cops. 1st dude was the best by far.
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One small detail that seems to be overlooked - how so they know who has guns? The NICS forms, are, by specific law, not to be used for gun registration purposes.
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