Survivalist Forum

Advertise Here

Go Back   Survivalist Forum > Firearms and Other Weapons Forum > Military Weapons Forum
Articles Chat Room Classifieds Donations Gallery Groups Links Store Survival Files



Military Weapons Forum AR15, AK47, SKS, H&K, Galil, CETME, FN/FAL, Tanks, Ships, Jets, Helicopters....

Advertise Here
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-27-2012, 11:43 AM
JBryan314's Avatar
JBryan314 JBryan314 is offline
Recent Blog:
Soldier, Patriot
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Deep South, Florida Panhandle
Age: 28
Posts: 2,791
Thanks: 3,490
Thanked 6,461 Times in 1,819 Posts
Default Are my weapons registered?



Advertise Here

This might sound idiotic but I have no idea if my weapons are "registered" and who, if anyone, they're registered with.

I purchased my .22 pistol new from Academy Sports and Outdoors in Florida. Filled out the background check paper and then the guy called it in by phone. I waited the 3 day wait period and picked it up.

I then purchased my Glock 17 new from a Pawn and Gun by in Florida by order from a Glock dealer online. Same thing. Filled out the background check form, dude called it in, I picke it up 3 days later.

Bought my Colt M4 new from Walmart in Texas. Filled out the background form, dude called it in, no waiting period, I walked out with it that day.

I don't remember ever filling anything else out to register my weapons. So, are they? Thanks in advance everyone.
Old 12-27-2012, 11:45 AM
vicdotcom's Avatar
vicdotcom vicdotcom is offline
Maximus
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 11,823
Thanks: 6,697
Thanked 13,893 Times in 6,179 Posts
Default

Nope they are not registered. You just filed for the background check form. No serial numbers are kept on those or even the type of firearm purchased.
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to vicdotcom For This Useful Post:
Old 12-27-2012, 11:48 AM
MIL-DOT's Avatar
MIL-DOT MIL-DOT is offline
huh......what?
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: "...front row seat for the end of the world."
Posts: 11,883
Thanks: 15,352
Thanked 33,799 Times in 8,257 Posts
Default

Technically,no, your rifle isn't "registered" in the traditional sense. But there is a permanent record of you having bought the weapon. The gun store must keep the paperwork on file, and if they go out of buisness, must send it to the ATF. If the rifle is ever used in a crime, the .gov can trace the serial number to the retailer, and then hunt down your personal information from there.
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to MIL-DOT For This Useful Post:
Old 12-27-2012, 12:03 PM
canman's Avatar
canman canman is offline
III
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 927
Thanks: 1,707
Thanked 1,459 Times in 532 Posts
Default

Mine are. Seeing how the Bill of Rights recognises not grants God given inalienable rights,I should be good. God has not gotten back and said to get rid of them either and He knows I have them.. If he does I will comply but not for anyone else.
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to canman For This Useful Post:
Old 12-27-2012, 01:02 PM
alig33's Avatar
alig33 alig33 is offline
land of the free?
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: West
Posts: 662
Thanks: 94
Thanked 298 Times in 145 Posts
Default

What states require you to register firearms at purchase?
Old 12-27-2012, 01:19 PM
ClosetFreek ClosetFreek is offline
Prepared
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 272
Thanks: 249
Thanked 154 Times in 98 Posts
Default

i know for a fact that here in Maine that "background check" registers those firearms to you the purchaser.
this is how i know it to be true.
My brother bought a glock .40 and .45 and gave the .40 to my cousin. he filled out the background check to purchase them both, my cousin after receiving the pistol he registered it in his name though the town.
less then 24 hours later ATF was knocking on my brothers door looking for him and asking why the .40 was REGISTERED to him and then my cousin a day later. they used the exact word "REGISTERED"
Old 12-27-2012, 01:23 PM
canman's Avatar
canman canman is offline
III
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 927
Thanks: 1,707
Thanked 1,459 Times in 532 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ClosetFreek View Post
i know for a fact that here in Maine that "background check" registers those firearms to you the purchaser.
this is how i know it to be true.
My brother bought a glock .40 and .45 and gave the .40 to my cousin. he filled out the background check to purchase them both, my cousin after receiving the pistol he registered it in his name though the town.
less then 24 hours later ATF was knocking on my brothers door looking for him and asking why the .40 was REGISTERED to him and then my cousin a day later. they used the exact word "REGISTERED"
Wow the world IS much safer with registration. Look at the way they nipped that problem right in the bud. Bet those ATF agents felt real good about their above average income after that.Surprised that didn't make national news.Just think of all the criminals who would have thought twice.
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to canman For This Useful Post:
Old 12-27-2012, 02:09 PM
Tenfeathers's Avatar
Tenfeathers Tenfeathers is online now
Remember The Alamo
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,866
Thanks: 1,489
Thanked 5,484 Times in 2,065 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vicdotcom View Post
Nope they are not registered. You just filed for the background check form. No serial numbers are kept on those or even the type of firearm purchased.
The form and the serial # 's of guns purchased have to be kept by the seller until he goes out of bussiness, and then the files are transfered to the ATF.
In a way they are registered.
Old 12-27-2012, 02:13 PM
redranger1's Avatar
redranger1 redranger1 is offline
Hiker
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Missouri
Posts: 635
Thanks: 174
Thanked 973 Times in 342 Posts
Default

Firearms registration is a pretty loose word. I consider any firearm i have bought and filled out paperwork to purchase as a registered weapon of sorts. It can be tracked back to you.

-Nate
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to redranger1 For This Useful Post:
Old 12-27-2012, 02:35 PM
merlinfire's Avatar
merlinfire merlinfire is offline
Survivor
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 10,089
Thanks: 16,085
Thanked 18,521 Times in 5,833 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ClosetFreek View Post
i know for a fact that here in Maine that "background check" registers those firearms to you the purchaser.
this is how i know it to be true.
My brother bought a glock .40 and .45 and gave the .40 to my cousin. he filled out the background check to purchase them both, my cousin after receiving the pistol he registered it in his name though the town.
less then 24 hours later ATF was knocking on my brothers door looking for him and asking why the .40 was REGISTERED to him and then my cousin a day later. they used the exact word "REGISTERED"
Hilarious....since the 4473 allows you to buy something as a gift and its ok. But if I buy it for myself and decide to sell it to my brother the next day they freak out? Meh, if they were really so concerned about "straw purchases" maybe they'd have stopped some illegal guns going to Mexican Drug Cartels.
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to merlinfire For This Useful Post:
Old 12-27-2012, 02:35 PM
merlinfire's Avatar
merlinfire merlinfire is offline
Survivor
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 10,089
Thanks: 16,085
Thanked 18,521 Times in 5,833 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redranger1 View Post
Firearms registration is a pretty loose word. I consider any firearm i have bought and filled out paperwork to purchase as a registered weapon of sorts. It can be tracked back to you.

-Nate
This is why there's a fair number of people who prefer to buy guns used with no paper trail.

And some people prefer to build their own.
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to merlinfire For This Useful Post:
Old 12-27-2012, 03:22 PM
PNW-6.8spc PNW-6.8spc is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 68
Thanks: 1
Thanked 67 Times in 23 Posts
Default

i know for a fact that here in Maine that "background check" registers those firearms to you the purchaser.
this is how i know it to be true.
My brother bought a glock .40 and .45 and gave the .40 to my cousin. he filled out the background check to purchase them both, my cousin after receiving the pistol he registered it in his name though the town.
less then 24 hours later ATF was knocking on my brothers door looking for him and asking why the .40 was REGISTERED to him and then my cousin a day later. they used the exact word "REGISTERED"

Bull****....just saying, There is so much wrong lets start with why would they care if it was a legal gun between two legal people.
Old 12-27-2012, 03:37 PM
michiganmuleguy michiganmuleguy is offline
Tactical Tinkerer
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: starvation lake ,mi.
Age: 70
Posts: 43
Thanks: 1
Thanked 20 Times in 11 Posts
Default

In Michigan you must have a purchase permit to buy a handgun.When you recieve the hand gun , it must be registered at the sherrif dept of the county that you reside in. This (technically) does not apply to private transfers ,(yet). This is why I buy in ohio ,I have property there and have dual residince status,but even so,if I bring them to my residence in Mi , they are supposed to be registered in my county to me.If I were to move within the state,they do not have to be reregistered in my new county of residence. This tells me that the "registration" is not a county thing, but rather a "state " data base. Long guns do not require any registration as long as they are not NFA items. They do require a background check though.

edit) as far as the private transfer of handguns it IS the buyers responceability to register it in his county of residence,since transport or posession of an unregistered handgun is unlawful and (I believe) a felony.

Last edited by michiganmuleguy; 12-27-2012 at 03:40 PM.. Reason: additional content
Old 12-27-2012, 05:54 PM
cooper30 cooper30 is offline
Prepared
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Maine
Posts: 343
Thanks: 740
Thanked 480 Times in 197 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ClosetFreek View Post
i know for a fact that here in Maine that "background check" registers those firearms to you the purchaser.
this is how i know it to be true.
My brother bought a glock .40 and .45 and gave the .40 to my cousin. he filled out the background check to purchase them both, my cousin after receiving the pistol he registered it in his name though the town.
less then 24 hours later ATF was knocking on my brothers door looking for him and asking why the .40 was REGISTERED to him and then my cousin a day later. they used the exact word "REGISTERED"

Where in Maine does your brother live that he had to register a pistol with his town?

Is there more to this story?

I'm not aware of any municipality in Maine that requires handgun registration.
Old 12-27-2012, 06:03 PM
POPPALUV's Avatar
POPPALUV POPPALUV is offline
Fine ham ABOUNDS!!!!!!!!
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Da Nawlins bayous
Posts: 17,821
Thanks: 31,275
Thanked 37,793 Times in 12,707 Posts
Default

Where do the criminals go to register?
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to POPPALUV For This Useful Post:
Old 12-27-2012, 06:07 PM
American Chestnut's Avatar
American Chestnut American Chestnut is offline
I'll eat your gold.
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,034
Thanks: 3,544
Thanked 2,142 Times in 849 Posts
Default

Well, there is another state added to the list of states I'm not going to be moving to.
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to American Chestnut For This Useful Post:
Old 12-27-2012, 06:08 PM
KCFirepower KCFirepower is offline
Survivor
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: KC area
Posts: 4,252
Thanks: 6,802
Thanked 7,445 Times in 2,566 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MIL-DOT View Post
Technically,no, your rifle isn't "registered" in the traditional sense. But there is a permanent record of you having bought the weapon. The gun store must keep the paperwork on file, and if they go out of buisness, must send it to the ATF. If the rifle is ever used in a crime, the .gov can trace the serial number to the retailer, and then hunt down your personal information from there.
Well, if we're speaking technically, then the BATF must dispose of the sales records in a timely fashion (generally understood to be about a year, and no longer than 5). The BATF has been challenged on backdoor registration before, and lost. They still, however, continue to break the order of the courts and keep sales records that are used to "backdoor register" for criminal investigations and such.
Don't like it? Vote about it.
Old 12-27-2012, 06:09 PM
cooper30 cooper30 is offline
Prepared
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Maine
Posts: 343
Thanks: 740
Thanked 480 Times in 197 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by American Chestnut View Post
Well, there is another state added to the list of states I'm not going to be moving to.
There is no handgun registration in Maine.
Old 12-27-2012, 06:54 PM
JDH's Avatar
JDH JDH is online now
Si vis pacem, para bellum
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 3,264
Thanks: 216
Thanked 4,397 Times in 1,789 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by POPPALUV View Post
Where do the criminals go to register?
They don't have to. It violates their 5th amendment rights not to self incriminate.
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to JDH For This Useful Post:
Old 12-27-2012, 06:58 PM
MIL-DOT's Avatar
MIL-DOT MIL-DOT is offline
huh......what?
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: "...front row seat for the end of the world."
Posts: 11,883
Thanks: 15,352
Thanked 33,799 Times in 8,257 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KCFirepower View Post
Well, if we're speaking technically, then the BATF must dispose of the sales records in a timely fashion (generally understood to be about a year, and no longer than 5). The BATF has been challenged on backdoor registration before, and lost. They still, however, continue to break the order of the courts and keep sales records that are used to "backdoor register" for criminal investigations and such.
Don't like it? Vote about it.
When I said,"technically...your rifle isn't registered", I seriously almost wrote,"but there is still a 'de facto' registration."
The Following User Says Thank You to MIL-DOT For This Useful Post:
Reply

Bookmarks



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Just registered from WV GLMonty New Member Introduction 21 12-13-2012 04:22 PM
just registered Delta10 New Member Introduction 9 02-26-2012 11:12 PM
Can't get registered. gmccbi Site Information & Suggestion Box 3 05-04-2011 09:17 AM
Just registered jolawi New Member Introduction 13 04-29-2011 06:55 PM
Just registered pinkerpv New Member Introduction 18 08-07-2009 02:01 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright Kevin Felts 2006 - 2012,
Green theme by http://www.themesbydesign.net